FARRAKHAN VS. ELIJAH
Many who love and admire Minister Louis Farrakhan do so out of ignorance with respect to the relationship between Minister Farrakhan and the man who taught Minister Farrakhan. The Man of whom I speak is The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Many who regard Minister Farrakhan as “the leader of The Nation of Islam” do so out of the same ignorance. When one understands the relationship of Minister Farrakhan to his former leader and teacher The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, one can clearly see that Minister Farrakhan’s claim to be “his extension” is undeniably false. His relationship to Messenger Muhammad, far from being one of dedicated servant and representative, is instead one of hostile enemy to the truth of Messenger Muhammad, which is the only salvation for the suffering masses of The Black Nation.
There is but one truth that will set us free and that truth is taught by none other than The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. This Minister Farrakhan knows, but will not teach without adding to it and taking away from it as Messenger Muhammad and The Holy Quran condemns. While The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was still among us, Minister Farrakhan was careful to represent him to the best of his ability. Since Messenger Muhammad has been away from us, Minister Farrakhan has deviated far from the strict teaching and program of The Messenger. He has done this all the while claiming to be the chosen representative of The Messenger to lead the followers of The Messenger in the absence of The Messenger. This has greatly deceived the people to whom Allah raised The Messenger. It is this that makes him a hostile enemy to the truth of The Messenger.
To understand the true relationship Minister Farrakhan holds to The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, one need only consider the relationship he holds to the son of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. Upon Messenger Muhammad’s departure, Imam Wallace D. Muhammad assumed leadership of his father’s “organization.” Within one year, the “new leader” of The Nation of Islam made drastic changes to his father’s teaching and program. Where was Minister Farrakhan while all these changes were being made, you might ask? This question is particularly important, considering he had been National Representative of the man whose work was being destroyed by a “hostile enemy” to the truth Messenger Muhammad had brought us from God in person Master Fard Muhammad. The answer may surprise you.
Upon Messenger Elijah Muhammad’s departure, Minister Farrakhan became the “top representative” of Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. As the mouthpiece of Imam Muhammad, Minister Farrakhan vocally represented the hostile and enemy positions Imam Wallace D. Muhammad assumed toward his father’s teaching and program. This Minister Farrakhan did until Imam Muhammad’s ill-treatment of him forced him out of the newly restructured organization. Contemplating a return to the musical career Messenger Muhammad compelled him to abandon, and with few other prospects of earning a living, he decided to establish an organization of his own and pattern it after the old one he had been a top spokesman in before Imam Muhammad changed its direction. Please pay close attention to the words “patterned after.” To pattern a thing after some other thing is not to duplicate that thing, but merely to produce something new from the basic pattern of that thing. In truth, this is what he has done with respect to both the former and latter organizations he has been a top spokesman for.
The organization Minister Farrakhan heads is based on aspects of Wallace D. Muhammad’s organization as well as Messenger Muhammad’s “organization.” Minister Farrakhan himself spoke of this in his Saviours’ Day address in the year 2000, where he announced his unity with Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. Minister Farrakhan is quoted as having said:” The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad brought the thesis. Imam Wallace D. Muhammad brought the anti-thesis. We don’t need the thesis or the anti-thesis. What we need is the synthesis.” This means a new movement based on the basic patterns of the old movements and leaves us with him as the leader of this new movement.
To say that we don’t need the thesis brought by Messenger Elijah Muhammad makes him a hostile enemy to the truth of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. This means he cannot be trusted by those who seek the truth Messenger Elijah Muhammad represents, which is our only salvation today. To say we don’t need the anti-thesis brought by the son of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Imam Wallace D. Muhammad makes him a hostile enemy to the truth he claims is taught by Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. This makes him untrustworthy to the Imam and his followers as well. This is the reason the Imam has recently rebuked Minister Farrakhan for failing to deliver on promises he made to the Imam to bring his organization more in line with the Orthodox Islamic tenets the Imam teaches. (See link for article) http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/b/2581
Messenger Elijah Muhammad teaches us that the hypocrite is the most hated of all people because you can never trust the hypocrite. This The Messenger teaches us in “Message To The Blackman In America” where he speaks of such hypocrites as “FALSE PROPHETS” that we should “BEWARE OF.” This is a fitting description of Minister Farrakhan. He is hated by the followers of both Messenger Muhammad and his son Wallace and trusted by neither of them. Minister Farrakhan opposes the truth taught by The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. This, as his own words quoted above prove, makes him a hostile enemy to the salvation offered us by our God and Saviour Allah, Master Fard Muhammad, through his Messenger, The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Those who wish to accept Minister Farrakhan as a true representative of Black Liberation are free to continue to do so. But those who wish to see the teaching and program of The Most honorable Elijah Muhammad carried on, are advised to take another look at this crooked deceiver who falsely claims to be “the extension” of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Thank you for reading these words and May Allah bless and keep you,
Minister Eric Muhammad
October 23, 2007 at 9:36 am
ummmm be sure to send a copy of this to the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan…really unbelievable what you wrote - it truly explains the Anti-Christ behavior of those who surround you - if you want to know more Minister just email me - I think I have a paper trail of what transpired back in 05 and 06
October 23, 2007 at 11:10 am
I want you to pay good attention to his preaching. His preaching is a bearing of witness to me and what God has given to me. This is one of the strongest national preachers that I have in the bounds of North America. Everywhere you hear him, listen to him. Everywhere you see him, look at him. Everywhere he advises you to go, go. Everywhere he advises you to stay from, stay from. For we are thankful to Allah for this great helper of mine, Min. Farrakhan.
He’s not a proud man. He’s a very humble man. If he can carry you across the lake without dropping you in; he don’t say when you get on the other side, ‘You see what I have done?’ He tells you, ‘You see what Allah has done.’ He doesn’t take it upon himself. He’s a mighty fine preacher. We hear him every week, and I say continue to hear our Min. Farrakhan. I thank you.
-The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Saviours’ Day 1972
October 23, 2007 at 11:23 am
As Salaam Alaikum
You guys kill me with this idiotic crap about these words somehow having special meaning with respect to Farrakhan. Use your heads for once in your lives!
These words applied to each and every Minister of The Messenger and not just Farrakhan. If you claim otherwise, name each and every Minister of The Messenger who’s preaching was not a bearing of witness to The Messenger and what God gave The Messenger. Name one even! Just one!
Read the article again and tell me Farrakhan’s preaching is today what it was in 1972! You’ve got to be kidding me!
Was Minister Farrakhan teaching that Master Fard Muhammad prayed to Allah in 1972? Was he teaching that separation was a last resort in 1972? Was he teaching that love transends color in 1972? Was he teaching that the devil is deceptive intelligence that rationalizes disobedience to God in 1972? Was he teaching we should fast with the Orthodox Muslims instead of December in 1972? Need I go on?
And lastly……….was he teaching that “WE DON’T NEED THE THESIS” (Messenger’s teaching) in 1972? Duuuhhhh!!!!!
Get off that bastard’s jock God Damnit and bear witness to the truth!!!!!
October 23, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Actually no they didn’t apply to “These words applied to each and every Minister of The Messenger and not just Farrakhan.” What you and those like you fail to grasp is that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad MADE Farrakhan sit in HIS SEAT! He sat him in HIS CHAIR that represented the seat of leadership. Why did you leave that out? When The Honorable Elijah Muhammad wrote those words, he MADE Minister Farrakhan stand before the people. He did NOT at one time refer back to the section where ALL of the other MINISTERS sat…………or do you claim otherwise? What other Minister made over 300 radio broadcast each one being approved by T.H.E.M.? And lastly, since you claim Minister Farrakhan as being and enemy, why don’t you give back the “Muhammad” that your enemy gave you?
October 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm
MC writes: “And lastly, since you claim Minister Farrakhan as being and enemy, why don’t you give back the “Muhammad” that your enemy gave you?”
Louis Farrakhan was never given the authority to give Holy-names. So Minister Eric Muhammad doesn’t have to give nothing back to him. Him (Eric Muhammad) wearing the name Muhammad is between him, ALLAH-Master Fard Muhammad and His Messenger, The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. In fact, Louis Farrakhan has tried to diminish the name “Muhammad”, by given it out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Messenger never gave out Holy-names so foolishly. The Messenger gave out Holy-names to his top laborers, Ministers, and/or those that earned them. In my humble opinion Minister Eric Muhammad is worthy to wear the name Muhammad because he teaches Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad that is, with no additions or subtractions. And Messenger Muhammad said “Leave my teachings as they is”, but Farrakhan changed them.
As Salaam Alaikum
October 23, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Talib co-signs the following:
“Louis Farrakhan was never given the authority to give Holy-names. So Minister Eric Muhammad doesn’t have to give nothing back to him. Him (Eric Muhammad) wearing the name Muhammad is between him, ALLAH-Master Fard Muhammad and His Messenger-The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. In fact, Louis Farrakhan has tried to diminish the name “Muhammad”, by given it out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Messenger never gave out Holy-names so foolishly. The Messenger gave out Holy-names to his top Laborers, Ministers, and/or those that earned them. In my humble opinion Minister Eric Muhammad is worthy to wear the name “Muhammad” because he teaches Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad that is, with no additions or subtractions. And Messenger Muhammad said “Leave my teachings as they is”, but Farrakhan changed them.
As Salaam Alaikum”
October 23, 2007 at 6:07 pm
MC WRITES:Actually no they didn’t apply to “These words applied to each and every Minister of The Messenger and not just Farrakhan.” What you and those like you fail to grasp is that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad MADE Farrakhan sit in HIS SEAT! He sat him in HIS CHAIR that represented the seat of leadership. Why did you leave that out? When The Honorable Elijah Muhammad wrote those words, he MADE Minister Farrakhan stand before the people. He did NOT at one time refer back to the section where ALL of the other MINISTERS sat…………or do you claim otherwise? What other Minister made over 300 radio broadcast each one being approved by T.H.E.M.? And lastly, since you claim Minister Farrakhan as being and enemy, why don’t you give back the “Muhammad” that your enemy gave you?
As Salaam Alaikum
I honestly left out the seat part because I forgot it. It doesn’t change anything though. My points are still valid. The preaching of all Ministers of The Messenger was a bearing of witness of him and the truth God gave him. You absolutely can not deny this can you? If so, name just one whose preaching was not. This is simple. Since you can not without slandering some Minister of The Messenger in ignorance, then those words of The Messenger would apply to them all.
As for the seat thing, will you give me a break? Whose seats did those who visited The Messenger’s home sit in? Weren’t those “his seats” as well? Was the seat at the Temple his only seat? This is silly! Why did The Messenger have to “approve” his 300 broadcasts? If the man is so damned divine, he should have been able to deliver those broadcasts “approval” free! Duuuhhhh!!! Needing The Messenger’s approval demonstrates he was nobody special, in terms of the possibility of screwing up the message! What the hypocrite needs today is The Messenger to approve what he intends to speak today as he did yesterday. Maybe then he could get it right!!!
Use your brain! I accuse the man of jacking up the teachings since 1975. You come with some words from The Messenger praising his teaching in 1972. Duuuhhhh!!! I didn’t say his preaching was substandard in 1972!!! I said “SINCE 1975!!!” Now………bring me some praise for this hypocrite’s preaching from The Messenger since then! It’s been all downhill since then!
Lastly……………..
Spare me the great stories about things said of Farrakhan by The Messenger. Why do the overwhelming majority of his followers still follow Wallace to this day? Why didn’t they follow Farrakhan instead? Why didn’t Farrakhan even attempt to lead them? Don’t you know about the even greater stories told about things said by THE SAVIOUR HIMSELF about Wallace? Have you noticed Wallace is named after The Saviour? Did you know The Saviour “wrote his name on the door” for The Messenger to give it to Wallace? Did you know also that he said Wallace was going to be a great help to him? Duuuhhhh!!! That’s why Wallace had enough juice to do what he did Einstein! He had much more props than Farrakhan. You so silly talkin bout some words and a damned seat! Who the hell you think had more juice than The Messenger’s own son? Wallace is his flesh and blood. Wallace was raised by him. Wallace was given his name by the God who raised him and was even named after that God and said of that God he’d be a great help to The Messenger raised by that God! Now, THAT’S PROPS YO!!! LOL.
Now if Wallace turned out the way he did in spite of all that, who cares what props Farrakhan is supposed to have had?
Answer my questions……………………………….
Was Minister Farrakhan teaching that Master Fard Muhammad prayed to Allah in 1972? Was he teaching that separation was a last resort in 1972? Was he teaching that love transends color in 1972? Was he teaching that the devil is deceptive intelligence that rationalizes disobedience to God in 1972? Was he teaching we should fast with the Orthodox Muslims instead of December in 1972? Need I go on?
And lastly……….was he teaching that “WE DON’T NEED THE THESIS” (Messenger’s teaching) in 1972?
October 23, 2007 at 11:48 pm
What I want to know is when are negroes going to stop being CRABS IN A BARREL?
October 25, 2007 at 6:40 am
Funny how one homeless bum could consider themself to be a Temple.
October 27, 2007 at 5:34 am
Either you are lying outright or you don’t know your NOI history. Either you think that THEM didn’t know what was going to happen or he made a big mistake. As much as you and you ilk try and make Farrakhan a part of the fall and conspiracy. you do so only to your on exposure. Or perhaps the fact that there was a press conference announcing that jeremiah shabazz was the new National Representative. You seem to brush over exactly what took place in order to Farrakhan as an agent of the man who was used to destroy the NOI. Your blog is nothing more than a series of rants by a child to immature to understand the concept of algebra. I’ve read you BS rants about love NOT transcending color dispute the fact that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad defined love as “freedom. justice and equality”. He taught us to be civil in all of our affairs. But its funny how that gets left out of your “thesis”. If you truly understood the ministers words about “synthesis” and truly understood how the Holy Qur’an as well as The Honorable Elijah Muhammad described his own mission, you’d understand. But of course you haven’t accepted that mission. You’ve rejected his mission and have made your own mission of being against Farrakhan. That is something that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad NEVER sanctioned. You can shout these words from the highest mountain top and you’ll never be successful or taken seriously. Why? Because you have no work and the people can measure the result. They can see Farrakhan and ministers around the Nation of Islam have a love for Black people worldwide. People visit your blog and can only tell that you hate Farrakhan.
You ducked the question of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad MAKING Farrakhan sit in his seat. You tried to downplay the fact that his broadcast needed approval while overlooking the fact that what he spoke in those broadcast must have been approve by the man you claim he DOESN’T represent. You look and sound like the arrogant fool you are. You are contesting aspects of history that NOBODY who was around at that time disagrees with. When you get caught leaving things out of your BS “thesis” you try and down play it.
You and those like you have tried for YEARS to make The Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s words concerning Farrakhan apply to all of his ministers. The problem is anyone who listens to the audio can clearly hear different. Anybody who was there can tell you that he didn’t point at the rest of his ministers. We do not say that he didn’t love the rest of his ministers. We say that those instructions and words where for one minister and that was the minister of HIS choice, not yours. Just as it took place in the 1930’s you have people making excuses after the fact concerning why they don’t have to follow the choice of the man who they claim to follow. See brother, when you tell the whole story and let the people decide for themselves, they can see that you are raising a false issue. It is nothing more than a straw man to justify your position.
October 27, 2007 at 12:27 pm
As Salaam Alaikum
I don’t have time right now to post all that I’d like to. So, I’ll just start with this.
http://noiwc.org/images/farrakhan.pdf
Notice the date of the interview is May 1977 and Farrakhan is Wallace’s International Representative!
Read it and weep!
October 27, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Were not my comments about him being the “National Representative for The Honorable Elijah Muhammad”? I said nothing about the “world community of Islam” which Farrakhan admitted was moving away from the central teaching. Was there or was there NOT a conspiracy to remove Farrakhan from his position? Did Farrakhan BLAST Wallace about his actions before he left him? Did Wallace publish in a Chicago paper that HE would be in charge of the NOI if anything happened to his father? Was there NOT a televised press conference announcing that Wallace was in charge and Jeremiah Shabazz was taking Farrakhan’s position? Was Farrakhan even in Chicago when all of this was taking place? You’re making an argument not based on history but the way you want to read history. And you are choosing to tell only what you think helps your position.
Farrakhan spent the latter half of 1977 and 1978 after he left Wallace telling people about what a mistake he made and WHY he stayed and WHY he left. All of that is public record. Not only is it NOT a secrete, but there are tapes made on collage campuses that deal with the issue and let people question him afterwards. Why not mention that? What your ilk tries to accomplish is people to link Farrakhan to your hatred of Wallace thus giving a reason to hate Farrakhan. Farrakhan was never properly relived of his post. The changes made were done under fraud and duress. As such they are null and void.
The childishness of your line of thinking is telling. Using your logic anyone who is encouraged to learn Arabic could be charged with taking on “Wallace’s teaching” despite the fact that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad also encouraged us to do so. Your hatred for Wallace has made your thinking limited in scope even in reading the history of the NOI. The Holy Qur’an talks about why Aaron didn’t stand up and tells us that Aaron didn’t want to cause disunity. That did not stop Allah from “empowering THEM BOTH” with authority. In other words, Allah (in the person of Master Fard Muhammad) has NO BEEF.
Your position is irrelevant.
October 29, 2007 at 1:30 am
As Salaam Alaikum
I don’t have time right now to post all that I’d like to. So, I’ll just start with this.
http://noiwc.org/images/farrakhan.pdf
Notice the date of the interview is May 1977 and Farrakhan is Wallace’s International Representative!
Read it and weep!
Let’s continue shall we?
Notice the date is September 1976. We’re 1 and 1 half years into the game now and your man is Wallace’s “National” and International Representative.
Your position is the one irrelevant and it is you who are downplaying reality to suit your irrelevant position in support of your man’s hypocrisy. It is also you who seems to need a history lesson.
http://www.noiwc.org/images/farrakhanthebialianrep.pdf
Read it and weep!
October 29, 2007 at 4:47 am
e was never properly relieved from his post as Wallace had no authority to do so. As such is “proper post” is that which assignment which the man with authority gave him. You keep mentioning being a representative of Wallace as if that is some sort of uncovered part of history. Did not Minister Farrakhan spend 1977-79 talking about his actions during Wallace’s change of direction? You’re walking back in time to try and find an issue with Farrakhan, but clearly side stepping the fact that HE has talked about, explained, and opened himself up to being questioned during that time. You have yet to acknowledge that. The Nation fell as The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would. This is without exception. You can find people that didn’t go with Wallace, and you can find people who stood up to lift the name of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, but none of them have had so much as a fraction of the success that Farrakhan has. Your M.O. has been exposed in the post above and you cannot get around that.
I’d tell you to get a late pass, but you’re about 60 semesters too late!
October 29, 2007 at 10:10 am
He quit his post without proper relief. He then calls himself reassuming the post without proper reassumption. The Messenger never relieving him would only count if he never quit it. He did quit it. End of story. You can’t quit and then, when you don’t like the results from quitting, take back what you gave up by quitting. No military on earth would allow this. Should ours be the only one?
As for The Messenger choosing Farrakhan in 1972………………….
http://muhammadspeaks.com/MeetsthePress2.html
QUESTION: Have you designated a successor for yourself ?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: I do not do that. I cannot do that. I did not choose myself. God chose me and if He wants a successor, He will choose that one.
QUESTION: By what means would someone come up?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: I do not know that, because I do not believe there is one coming up. The work that I am doing, I don’t think God needs one, because when man and god have come face to face, as the old saying goes, then that is the end of it. When we are face to face with God, that is the end of it and so what would another one do? There is nothing for him to do.
QUESTION: After you are gone, Mr. Muhammad, the Nation of Islam will continue to exist but how?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: It will be a New Islam to what the old Orthodox Islam is, today. It will be altogether a New One.
QUESTION: You mean your successor will preside over a New Islam?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: There will be no successor. There is no need for a successor when a man has got the Divine truth and has brought you face to face with God.
QUESTION: How will your resources be administered?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: That will be carried on by the Nation. After setting up the Nation on the right way, or right path to take care of themselves, they do not need any more instruction on that. They will follow it as the Constitution of America has been followed.
QUESTION: Will it be run by local Mosques?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: No, No, No. After this, the whole entire Nation of Black people will be governed Divinely and the government will be a Divine government and not something that is governed locally, like we have today. We will have a Divine government set up for us, and it will stand forever. We will not need any change.
QUESTION: What did you mean, ” new different from Orthodox ? ”
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: I meant just that. We have a New Islam coming up. The Old Islam was led by white people, white Muslims, but this one will not be. This Islam will be established and led by Black Muslims, only.
As for Farrakhan’s so-called success, why reunite with Wallace after so much so-called success then? If he’s been so successful by disuniting from Wallace, why go back to Wallace?
Why hasn’t he blasted Wallace for that article? (See link for article) http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/b/2581
Instead he has responded by making drastic changes in his own organization which would seem to be making good on those promises Wallace busted his lying azz IN PUBLIC about having made to him and then not fulfilled them.
Looks like you’re the one who needs the late pass!
October 29, 2007 at 10:48 am
*sigh*
At no time have any students of Minister Farrakhan or even Farrakhan himself called or referred to himself as a “successor” . You’ve posted an interview that doesn’t apply to the situation at hand. Its called “GRASPING at what isn’t there” The changes that have taken place are no different than the changes that took place between 1937 and 1975. Wallace is YOUR focus, not ours. You question my point of fact dealing with Farrakhan’s and the Nation’s success and then revert back to Wallace as if it negates the success. Wallace is a non issue unless your mind has continued to focus on him 30 years after the fact. This is a subject that has been addressed IN PUBLIC and ON THE RECORD for any and all to hear from 1977-1981 but here you are posting on the internet like discovered some untold truth. The Nation fell just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would. That included Farrakhan. The Nation would rose again just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would, and people are listening to Farrakhan just like He advised us to. Farrakhan repented just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said he would, and he is BACKING FARRAKHAN just like he said he would.
October 29, 2007 at 1:01 pm
MC Says: *sigh*
At no time have any students of Minister Farrakhan or even Farrakhan himself called or referred to himself as a “successor” . You’ve posted an interview that doesn’t apply to the situation at hand. Its called “GRASPING at what isn’t there” The changes that have taken place are no different than the changes that took place between 1937 and 1975. Wallace is YOUR focus, not ours. You question my point of fact dealing with Farrakhan’s and the Nation’s success and then revert back to Wallace as if it negates the success. Wallace is a non issue unless your mind has continued to focus on him 30 years after the fact. This is a subject that has been addressed IN PUBLIC and ON THE RECORD for any and all to hear from 1977-1981 but here you are posting on the internet like discovered some untold truth. The Nation fell just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would. That included Farrakhan. The Nation would rose again just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would, and people are listening to Farrakhan just like He advised us to. Farrakhan repented just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said he would, and he is BACKING FARRAKHAN just like he said he would.
*smacking lips and sighing*
You’re a liar. Farrakhan is a liar. You who follow him and he himself have referred to him as a “DIVINE REMINDER,” not to mention other such titles. If he is a “DIVINE REMINDER,” that makes him a successor to The Messenger who actually was a “DIVINE REMINDER” in our midst. So, the interview does so apply to this situation. The changes that have taken place are quite different than those of which you speak. Farrakhan is bending over for Wallace. This never happened from 1937-1975. Wallace is Farrakhan’s focus. Farrakhan is the one who has united with him. Farrakhan is the one who keeps bringing him into the picture. Wallace was out of the way. Farrakhan brought him back in the way. So, what are you talking about? If Farrakhan had just left him alone, we wouldn’t be discussing him. Duuuhhhh! Farrakhan is the one reverting back to Wallace and that is what negates the so-called success. Wallace is so an issue because Farrakhan has once again made him an issue. The overwhelming majority of the people who admire Farrakhan are not aware of this history. We are 30 years up from it. How many people do you think are up on some history from 30 years ago? The Nation has not risen again! You Farrakhanites need to stop that lie! Negroes started wearing bowties and eatin bean pies again! That’s it! The Messenger’s teaching and program has absolutely not been brought back. Farrakhan’s program and teaching has been brought up. It is patterned after The Messenger’s, but is something entirely new and not The Messenger’s.
Fewer and fewer people are listening to Farrakhan and if he was being backed by The Messenger, we wouldn’t be having this conversation!
October 29, 2007 at 8:41 pm
“Fewer and fewer people are listening to Farrakhan and if he was being backed by The Messenger, we wouldn’t be having this conversation!”
The quote above is just stupid. Especially since the Nation’s mosque where all packed sunday with young people to hear from him. Especially since Atlanta (the place where you dwell) is STILL talking about Farrakhan but NOT talking about you.
reminder |ri?m?nd?r| noun a thing that causes someone to remember something : the watchtower is a reminder of the days when an enemy might appear at any moment. • a message or communication designed to ensure that someone remembers something. • a letter sent to remind someone of an obligation, esp. to pay a bill.
1 a: to come next after another in office or position or in possession of an estate; especially : to inherit sovereignty, rank, or title b: to follow after another in order2 a: to turn out well b: to attain a desired object or end 3obsolete : to pass to a person by inheritancetransitive verb1: to follow in sequence and especially immediately2: to come after as heir or successor
Reminder is not the same as SUCCESSOR. To be reminded doesn’t make you a successor. As you have so clearly side stepped, Minister Farrakhan is acting in the capacity of “Representivitive”. He has stated that he is sitting The Messengers seat, not that the sit belongs to him. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad was a reminder that a man named Fard Muhammad visited us. Did that make him a successor? No. Did HE every claim to be a successor? No. Did we ever call him a successor? No. Did anybody claim that he was trying to be a successor? Yes! Who where they? They were who The Honorable Elijah Muhammad called hypocrites!
Your anti Farrakhan movement brings up Wallace at every turn. Wallace was in and out of the Nation and his FATHER saw fit to permit that. He didn’t stop him from being his son even after he wrote what he wrote about him in 1965. Now, Farrakhan embraced Wallace during Saviour day 2000. Wallace hasn’t taught FOI class. He has NO authority over the FOI or MGT. He has NO say in the Nation’s affairs and Minister Farrakhan has not yielded or differed to him on making decisions concerning our movement. Yet, at every turn you and your ilk try and paint a picture that would suggest that he’s taking direction from Wallace.
You call me a liar, but will not answer directly on the truth or falsity of the existence of lectures recorded from 1977 to 1981 that deal with his fall in DEPTH. You call me a liar but will not site anything other than your own conjecture to back your position. You call me a liar but have yet to name anyone who was around back then or now that supports your view.
The Nation of Islam has always taught on the nature of the devil, but we are not here to satisfy those who only wish to hate them. We are about the rise of the Black nation. Likewise we are not here to satisfy your need to hate Wallace. Wallace served a purpose just as Yacub served a purpose. You search activities to find signs of what you think is “Wallace’s teaching” and gloss over The Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s words on the subject.
October 30, 2007 at 11:08 am
TO MC
My quote is not stupid. It’s true. The conditions in The Black Nation are a bearing of witness that they are true. Our youth are certainly not listening to Farrakhan any longer. They see that he has sold them out. He had them fooled for a minute, but they have wised up to him and you who follow him. Please do not presume it upon yourself to tell me who Black people are or are not talking about in Atlanta. Unless you’re here too, I know better than you. You’re telling me nobody’s talking about us? And you know this how? Prove that by presenting your evidence and citing your sources. Again………….if nobody were talking about us, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. You wouldn’t spend this much time going back and forth with me unless you felt otherwise than you are claiming. I am more than intelligent enough to realize this. If Farrakhan is so significant and we are so insignificant, what are you arguing with me for then? Why waste your time arguing with such a nothing as myself?
The definition you provided is not relevant. I didn’t say Farrakhan has claimed to be a “reminder.” I said “DIVINE REMINDER.” Therefore I was right in the point I made. The Messenger clearly said no “DIVINE REMINDER” would come after him. Farrakhan has also claimed to be a “DIVINE COMFORTER.” He said here in Atlanta in 93 I believe…..”I am to Black people what the pope is to white people.” The Messenger is the one who is to Black people what the pope is to white people. Master Fard Muhammad is Christ. That’s who The Mesenger taught is Christ. The Messenger is The Vicar of Christ. Farrakhan got it twisted and he has twisted you who follow him. The Messenger is a reminder of the prophets before him of the prophesies they made of him. Only Prophets, Messengers, Warners, etc. are reminders in the context of which we speak. They are reminders of the divine men raised before them and given the same mission as them. All others are “FOLLOWERS OF THE REMINDERS.” Duuuhhhh!!! Read your Quran Einstein! You will find two types written of in the Quran. The Reminders and the followers of the reminders. There is no room for any of us, including Farrakhan, to be reminders. That stopped with The Messenger. He is the last of the reminders. We only have room to be followers of the reminder.
Why do you insist on denying reality? I told your hardheaded azz it is Farrakhan that brought Wallace in this picture!!! He had Wallace beat! He didn’t have to bring him back in the picture, but he did. Why? Why embrace a hypocrite? That aint The Messenger’s teaching! Wallace is a notorious hypocrite and Farrakhan embraces this bastard???!!! That alone tells the story man………..WAKE UP!!!!!
Your point about The Messenger’s actions toward Wallace proves my point about Farrakhan. It proves his dealing with Farrakhan was no different. If the props he gave Wallace didn’t mean Wallace was down for the cause, then the props he gave Farrakhan didn’t mean he was either. You either is or you aint…..I don’t give a God Damn what The Messenger said bout yo raggedy azz! If you bout it, you bout it God Damnit……..If you doubt it, you doubt it! Don’t no damned words bout you from The Messenger change that! The nigguh’s a God Damned hypocrite! His “actions” speak a hell of a lot louder than any “words” of The Messenger!
I have quoted from the lectures you mention from 77-81 to prove my point Einstein! That’s where I got the 60%-40% quote from. Duuuhhhh! His explanations leave out the real truth of his motivations. His actions though clear things up quite well.
December 5, 2007 at 8:49 am
ASA,
For me I did not know the Messenger when he was hear. I have grown to love him greatly because of Minster Farrakhan’s preaching. I am not one that follows anyone with out question. I have my own mind. I am god in my own right. Moreever, I see the God in Minister Farrakhan. I can connect with that spirit of Allah. He has made Allah coming in the person of Master Fard Muhammad rational TO ME.
I think we as followers of the Hon Elijah Muhammad have a bigger enemy then ourselves. No matter what you think of one brother or another he is not your open enemy. The devil is. So, we must find away to be whole and work together for the liberation of our people. Whatever will do that the fastest is appropriate.
We all have to answer to Allah. He is very interested in what we do as it relates to saving our people.
HAALL
December 17, 2007 at 12:59 pm
NOITemple15,
You need to study your Supreme Wisdom, because it is clear you do not know who the real enemy is. Yakub was a “black man”, and he created the devil/s starting with a single thought, and put that same thought/mentality into the minds of his created devil/s.
When I read your post, the first thing that comes to my mind about you is… “Yakub” himself.
One of the meanings of devil is also…one who slanders!
December 27, 2007 at 5:17 pm
NOITEMPLE15,
Tell me this, how exactly does it help our plight as BLACK people by attacking MINISTER FARRAKHAN? You make our true enemy comfortable.
He speaks truth to power and won’t cower down especially regarding those so called jews who are not actually jews who invaded PALESTINE under false identity and also degrades BLACKS in amerikkka on all levels.
Are you familiar with COINTELPRO?
How can this division help BLACK people? If you have beef with MINISTER FARRAKHAN both the BIBLE and QURAN lay a solid foundation for conflict resolution. You should meet with him and discuss the matter face to face like a MAN.
What you are doing is childish, irresponsible, and foolish. In a day and age where the government is jumping on BLACK people with both feet and even sending us to jail for violating the rights of “DOGS” that we as BLACK people have never been afforded. Michael Vick serving time for a damned dog. Barry Bonds being witch hunted for “ALLEGED” steroids on the heels of shatterring the HOME RUN RECORD OF ALL TIME. And all of the energy that you can muster up, you bash MINISTER FARRAKHAN?
You sound like a damned agent! Other than bash the MINISTER what in the hell have you done?
We dont have to agree on every single matter. The caucasians strength against BLACK people is his ability to have serious differences and yet remain unified. You are welcome to email me!
December 27, 2007 at 6:16 pm
As Salaam Alaikum
Please point out the lies contained in the above article. I’ll be waiting……..
December 27, 2007 at 7:26 pm
You are so far out in left field that you could only be brought into reality with divine intervention.
Have you ever even attempted to speak with the MINISTER face to face like a MAN?
As more and more BLACK people are destroyed by this beast (amerikkka) you will be too busy bashing MINISTER FARRAKHAN.
You have the spirit of envy and jealousy. There is no way to appease that type of spirit.
Once again, other than bashing MINISTER FARRAKHAN, what have you done concerning this beast that plans to destroy us all?
December 27, 2007 at 7:33 pm
As Salaam Alaikum
I’ll ask again……………………
What lies were written in the article above?
I’m still waiting.
December 29, 2007 at 7:19 pm
I can’t believe that the above article is titled Farrakhan vs. Elijah. To make such a comparison is utterly ridiculous.
If anything, it should be titled Farrakhan vs. Eric Muhammad, and the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Oh, and by the way noitemple15,
The question from the poster was, “why attack the Minister and how does its help blacks here in Amerikkka, and what have you done concerning the beast who plans to destroy us all?” Please stick with the contentions made and stop throwing your Red Herrings out there.
December 30, 2007 at 1:23 pm
As Salaam Alaikum
I don’t give a damn what the question from the poster was! So don’t come throwing it back at me like it’s supposed to intimidate me or something. I’m sticking to the contentions made in the article and no other contentions. Those contentions are either true or false. If you contend they are false, point out those contentions which are false. If they are true, there’s nothing wrong with them being made.
Now……………………..
I’ll ask again……………………
What lies were written in the article above?
I’m still waiting.
December 31, 2007 at 3:09 am
Salaam Eric
Minister Louis Farrakhan is now and has been consistently”working” towards the liberation of our people and has openly discussed his sojourn in the Nation of Islam. Those envious of what Master Fard Muhammad has blessed him to accomplish in the name of his teacher, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, are enraged that he is being used as a catalyst to bring forth the true end of the devils rule. You should be more grateful that he has been/is a superlative representation of what brotherhood and striving for righteousness is. You benefit greatly from his representation, for were it not for that you may not have the opportunity to out live the grave mistake you are making in your baseless rants regarding a GOOD MAN.
I strongly suggest that you go to your field officer(at whatever government agency you work for) and beg them for another assignment. THIS IS NOT THE HOUR TO BE AN ENEMY TO THE RISE OF OUR PEOPLE.
Plainly, LEAVE FARRAKHAN ALONE!
December 31, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Wa Alaikum Salaam Bro. George
I will ask you the same question………………………….
What lies were written in the above article? Point them out please.
I’ll be waiting……………………………..
I would strongly suggest that you and those of like mind quit threatening me before I make you make good on those threats whether you want to or not! Feel me?……………………………………
January 2, 2008 at 11:19 am
The national clandestine services have found themselves another mule in the person of one eric muhammad. This is the new stage of COINTELPRO in which Steve Cokely coined “NOWINTELPRO”.
This alleged brother has shared nothing but foolishness and baseless responses. If you could hold eric muhammad up to the microscope you would find mmuch dirt that he would not like to explain. This brother cant even answer how it helps the BLACK NATION by senseless bashing of MINISTER FARRAKHAN and why, if he feels this way, he doesnt meet with the MINISTER himself like a GODLY MAN. Slander is the character of the shaitan. He slanders and runs.
eric muhammad is a hater, agent, and a weak slanderer of decent people.
January 2, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Salaam Bro. Eric
I found it very interesting to read the posting on your site dated 10/17/06. It gives a chronolgy of your “movements” in and around the Nation of Islam. Interesting that you mention your affiliation with the Honorable Louis Farrakhan from 1983 to 1996 when you “fell out of the mosque” or recieved another assignment from your field office(FBI,CIA or whatever). Exiled, yeah right!
1996-2003 Practicing mischiefmaking somewhere else (or being retrained for your new “assignment”)
You uplift the name of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, a man who is all about UNITY, but you state on your site that “Muhammad Temple#15 is an INDEPENDENT TEMPLE AND IS NOT AFFLIATED WITH ANY OTHER TEMPLES AT THIS TIME”.
Hmmm! When did the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad set up a temple INDEPENDENT of all of other temples designed to raise the dead to life ??
When the enemy finishes with you I hope you get more $$$ than William O’neil( he set up FRED HAMPTON) and Gene Roberts(he breathed death into Malcolm’s lungs at the Audubon Ballroom)
Your weak attempts to use “old” articles and info to demonize the Honorable Louis Farrakhan makes you look like a “damned fool”.
You give agents/the whiteman’s n****rs a bad name.
Again, I strongly reccomend that you BEG your field officer for a new assignment. Peace! I’m Done
P.S. Read Message to the Blackman pgs 252-254, your actions are addressed by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Inshallah, his words can reach you.
January 3, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Megaspank1 Says:
The national clandestine services have found themselves another mule in the person of one eric muhammad. This is the new stage of COINTELPRO in which Steve Cokely coined “NOWINTELPRO”.
This alleged brother has shared nothing but foolishness and baseless responses. If you could hold eric muhammad up to the microscope you would find mmuch dirt that he would not like to explain. This brother cant even answer how it helps the BLACK NATION by senseless bashing of MINISTER FARRAKHAN and why, if he feels this way, he doesnt meet with the MINISTER himself like a GODLY MAN. Slander is the character of the shaitan. He slanders and runs.
eric muhammad is a hater, agent, and a weak slanderer of decent people.
Our Response is:
If the above article “shares” nothing but foolishness, why have you not pointed it out? I’ve asked you to do so more than once. It is therefore your own responses which are baseless.
Stop pretending to be wiser than you actually are. What agent activity are we engaged in that can do anything Louis Farrakhan is not already doing? Think before you type. Pull your head out of Louis Farrakhan’s behind and you’ll be able to. The F.B.I. files point out clearly what their objective is with regards to “The Nation of Islam.” They say it is to turn it away from the militant black nationalist/separatist agenda and change it to a more spiritual “SELF IMPROVEMENT” agenda. They say it is to lead us in a more “Orthodox” expression of Islam. Farrakhan took his study groups out of The Messenger’s books in 1986 and introduced “SELF IMPROVEMENT” study guides. He said they were to make us more knowledgable of the Quran. He introduced Salat that same year. It was taught in F.O.I. class. Your man gives you a course of study named after the F.B.I.’s objective (SELF IMPROVEMENT). He introduces a more “orthodox” course of study and practice. He brought in Salat, increased focus on Quranic studies, and instructs that Master Fard Muhammad’s name and The Messenger’s name no longer be included in our openings at meetings. He said open by just saying “In the name of Allah the beneficent the merciful, I bear witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger.” No more “In the person of Master Fard Muhammad.” No more “The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is the last and greatest Messenger of Allah.” These are all things the F.B.I. spent millions of dollars to have Wallace D. Muhammad do 30 years ago. Even the study guides! You probably didn’t know Wallace did that first too did you?
With Farrakhan having done so much to achieve their objective, what the hell does your Farrakhan worshipping self think there is left for us to do? Duuuuuhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please think before you type. But you’ll have to pull your head out of Farrakhan’s behind to do so. You think you can do that? I don’t. But who knows? Maybe you’ll surprise me.
If there’s so much dirt you can expose about “eric muhammad”, expose it then. We’re waiting to read it.
Lastly……………………….
Quit acting like “eric muhammad” “WON’T” meet with Farakhan. Farrakhan has not requested any such meeting and been turned down by “eric muhammad.”
Some of us watched Minister Keith Muhammad write letters to Farrakhan and telephone him for 2 years in the late 80’s only to be jilted by him. Then we watched again as Khallid Muhammad called and called and called and called for 2 years trying to meet with him and he did the same thing to him. Farrakhan only meets with those who kiss his azz or those who are Sunni’s and Christians these days. He is not the slightest bit interested in meeting with any “eric muhammad.” Period.
And just in case you’re wondering………………… yes………. “eric muhammad” has written him on at least 2 occasions as well in the early 90’s and received the same treatment.
Please think before you type. But you’ll absolutely have to pull your head out of Farrakhan’s behind to do so!!!
January 3, 2008 at 6:23 pm
BROGEORGEA Says:
Salaam Bro. Eric
I found it very interesting to read the posting on your site dated 10/17/06. It gives a chronolgy of your “movements” in and around the Nation of Islam. Interesting that you mention your affiliation with the Honorable Louis Farrakhan from 1983 to 1996 when you “fell out of the mosque” or recieved another assignment from your field office(FBI,CIA or whatever). Exiled, yeah right!
1996-2003 Practicing mischiefmaking somewhere else (or being retrained for your new “assignment”)
You uplift the name of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, a man who is all about UNITY, but you state on your site that “Muhammad Temple#15 is an INDEPENDENT TEMPLE AND IS NOT AFFLIATED WITH ANY OTHER TEMPLES AT THIS TIME”.
Hmmm! When did the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad set up a temple INDEPENDENT of all of other temples designed to raise the dead to life ??
When the enemy finishes with you I hope you get more $$$ than William O’neil( he set up FRED HAMPTON) and Gene Roberts(he breathed death into Malcolm’s lungs at the Audubon Ballroom)
Your weak attempts to use “old” articles and info to demonize the Honorable Louis Farrakhan makes you look like a “damned fool”.
You give agents/the whiteman’s n****rs a bad name.
Again, I strongly reccomend that you BEG your field officer for a new assignment. Peace! I’m Done
P.S. Read Message to the Blackman pgs 252-254, your actions are addressed by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Inshallah, his words can reach you.
Our response is:
Wa Alaikum Salaam Sir
Trying to sound wise huh? If you could read a detailed account of “eric muhammad’s” movements, how does that square with agent activity? Duuuhhhh!!! Please post your detailed movements for us all to read so we’ll know you’re not an agent. We know a hell of a lot more about “eric muhammad’s” movements than we do about yours…….. now don’t we? Farrakhan has made you guys as silly as hell!
“eric muhammad” was exiled by Don Muhammad via a three way telephone conversation with Khadir Muhammad, Don Muhammad, and himself. It was for inviting Khallid Muhammad to speak at the westside community center in Asbury Park, Jew Jersey. So take your “yeah right” and shove it Einstein!
As for “Unity”…. you seem to have forgotten the part of the statement where “eric muhammad” said his temple enjoys friendly relations with other Ministers and Temples. Duuuhhhh!!!
Old articles? These articles would have no need to be mentioned if Farrakhan were not doing the same crap again today. Duuuhhhh!!!
Louis Farrakhan has done more to help the govenment destroy The Messenger’s teaching and program than “eric muhammad” could ever do. And guess what? He appears to be going at it again.
January 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm
INT THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THER IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. I GREET YOU ALL IN THE THE GREETING WORDS OF PEACE,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY THAT,IF ANY OF US CLAIM TO BE FOLLOWERS OF T.H.E.M THEN WHY ARE WE CARRYING ON IN A MANNER THAT MAKES OUR ENEMIES WORK EASY? IF MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS INDEED MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THEN I WOULD ADVISE A MEETING WITH HIM IN A SINCERE ATTEMPT TO CORRECT HIM SO THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT TO WHAT YOU CLAIM IS THE TRUTH. BEFORE MINISTER FARRAKHAN RE-INTRODUCED THE TEACHINGS,T.H.E.M WAS WRITTEN OUT OF OUR HISTORY,WHERE WERE THESE OTHER LEADERS THEN? FURTHER,THE N.O.I. WAS ALL BUT FORGOTTEN BY THE MASSES OF BLACK PEOPLE UNTIL MINISTER FARRAKHAN MADE IT RELEVANT AGAIN. I BELEIVE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER IS THEIR REMINDER IN OUR MIDST,I ALSO BELEIVE THAT ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE AND THEREFORE PRONE TO ERROR. WHEN OUR BROTHER MAKES A MISTAKE,WHY DEAL MORE HARSHLY WITH HIS MISTAKES THAN WE DO OUR OWN? EVEN WHEN T.H.E.M WAS AMONG US THERE WERE BROTHERS WHO WANTED TO BE LEADER,THEY HAVE THE DESIRE BUT NOT THE ABILITY. MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS BEING ACCUSED OF THE SAME THING THAT JESUS WAS BEING ACCUSED OF. WE THANK ALLAH FOREVER FOR LEAVING US THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN,ALL PRAISES DUE TO ALLAH. I WILL LEAVE YOU AS I CAME,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM!
January 6, 2008 at 9:14 pm
As Salaam Alaikum: Minister Eric
Very NICE ARTICLE above brother and CONGRATULATIONS on the SALAAM MAGAZINE.
AND TO BROGEORGEA YOU IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE PLANET EARTH LOUIS FARRAKHAN IS THE FBI AND CIA AND CARRY NEGRO’S LIKE YOURSELF BACK TO THE DEVIL HIMSELF WALLACE D. MR.LOUIS HAD ADMITED IT HIMSELF OF BEING A HYPOCRITE AND SAYING HIMSELF THAT HE NO LONGER BELIEVED IN MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD OR ELIJAH MUHAMMAD IN 1977 2 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF THE MESSENGER. ELIJAH MUHAMMAD HAD SHARED WITH US IN MESSAGE TO THE BLACKMAN THAT NO ONE LIKE’S A HYPOCRITE RATHER IN BUSINESS,FRIENDSHIP OR REGLION.
January 8, 2008 at 1:58 pm
JABARI SHABAZZ Says:
As Salaam Alaikum: Minister Eric
Very NICE ARTICLE above brother and CONGRATULATIONS on the SALAAM MAGAZINE.
AND TO BROGEORGEA YOU IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE PLANET EARTH LOUIS FARRAKHAN IS THE FBI AND CIA AND CARRY NEGRO’S LIKE YOURSELF BACK TO THE DEVIL HIMSELF WALLACE D. MR.LOUIS HAD ADMITED IT HIMSELF OF BEING A HYPOCRITE AND SAYING HIMSELF THAT HE NO LONGER BELIEVED IN MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD OR ELIJAH MUHAMMAD IN 1977 2 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF THE MESSENGER. ELIJAH MUHAMMAD HAD SHARED WITH US IN MESSAGE TO THE BLACKMAN THAT NO ONE LIKE’S A HYPOCRITE RATHER IN BUSINESS,FRIENDSHIP OR REGLION.
Wa Alaikum Salaam
Thanx. All Praise Is Due To Allah For The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Good to hear from you. Give the greetings to your wife and the believers and I love to see you Black Boot Stomp the followers of the false Prophets such as Louis Farrakhan.
January 8, 2008 at 6:33 pm
BIG BRO.AMIR1 SAYS:
INT THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THER IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. I GREET YOU ALL IN THE THE GREETING WORDS OF PEACE,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY THAT,IF ANY OF US CLAIM TO BE FOLLOWERS OF T.H.E.M THEN WHY ARE WE CARRYING ON IN A MANNER THAT MAKES OUR ENEMIES WORK EASY? IF MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS INDEED MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THEN I WOULD ADVISE A MEETING WITH HIM IN A SINCERE ATTEMPT TO CORRECT HIM SO THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT TO WHAT YOU CLAIM IS THE TRUTH. BEFORE MINISTER FARRAKHAN RE-INTRODUCED THE TEACHINGS,T.H.E.M WAS WRITTEN OUT OF OUR HISTORY,WHERE WERE THESE OTHER LEADERS THEN? FURTHER,THE N.O.I. WAS ALL BUT FORGOTTEN BY THE MASSES OF BLACK PEOPLE UNTIL MINISTER FARRAKHAN MADE IT RELEVANT AGAIN. I BELEIVE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER IS THEIR REMINDER IN OUR MIDST,I ALSO BELEIVE THAT ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE AND THEREFORE PRONE TO ERROR. WHEN OUR BROTHER MAKES A MISTAKE,WHY DEAL MORE HARSHLY WITH HIS MISTAKES THAN WE DO OUR OWN? EVEN WHEN T.H.E.M WAS AMONG US THERE WERE BROTHERS WHO WANTED TO BE LEADER,THEY HAVE THE DESIRE BUT NOT THE ABILITY. MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS BEING ACCUSED OF THE SAME THING THAT JESUS WAS BEING ACCUSED OF. WE THANK ALLAH FOREVER FOR LEAVING US THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN,ALL PRAISES DUE TO ALLAH. I WILL LEAVE YOU AS I CAME,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM!
Wa Alaikum Salaam
I wish you Farrakhan worshippers would use those brains Allah blessed you to have. Just what is the enemies work? Didn’t Wallace D. Muhammad make that work easier than Eric Muhammad? Didn’t Louis Farrakhan help him more than any other Minister to do so? Hasn’t your leader taught you that “as the nation goes… so goes black people?” The enemies work was to destroy “The Nation of Islam.” By doing so, he would therefore destroy Black people. Wallace destroyed The Nation. Farrakhan was his top representative in doing so. Wallace has not changed. Farrakhan has embraced him again. He announced in 2000 they are Jewnited again. Looks like your man is making the enemies work a hell of a lot more “easy” than we are! Duuuhhh!!!
What makes you brothers/sisters think a meeting with Farrakhan is so possible? His ego is way to big for such a thing. He has not requested a meeting with any of us. When a meeting was requested with him by Khallid, he strung him along for damned near three years playing nigguh games with the man! He did the same thing to Keith Muhammad years before! We watched this take place bruh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aint nobody got time for that crap! And besides… many before us have already tried that before us and he was too arrogant to be corrected!
Before Farrakhan The Messenger was written out of history? Was this done with no writer? Hmmmmmmmmm? Who wrote him out of history? THE SAME GOD DAMNED NIGGUH you say wrote him back in!!! Duuuhhh!!!!! God… you are stupid!!!!!
Now you’ll have to just excuse my savagry, but you nigguhs with Farrakhan make me sick!!! You so stuck up that bastard’s azz it’s pathetic!!! You think the sun rises and sets on that nigguh! Farrakhan didn’t bring back a damned thing! We know the Ministers of several cities who were teaching The Messenger’s teaching in their cities and even having Saviour’s days while Farrakhan was licking Wallace D. Muhammad’s boots as Abdul Halim Farrakhan! Many such Ministers became his Ministers in those cities, thinking they were simply uniting with him. Once they realized they were really Jewniting with him, they bucked and stepped off. Farrakhan aint brought no Nation back FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That nigguh held The Nation back!!!!! He did so by using his popularity and charisma to keep the people from joining up with The Messenger’s true followers in every major city in the country! He’s been a spoiler!!! If Farrakhan had kept his Black azz with Wallace, these other Ministers would have been much more easily able to grow in the cities they are in! Black people are stupid as hell man!!! The lessons say so! We’re easily led in the wrong direction, but HARD TO LEAD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!! We want big crowds and damned charisma! So we go with Farrakhan’s flunkies instead of The Messenger’s Ministers. Then we get funked thehell over in Farrakhan’s fake azz nation and become sour on The Nation all together and go back to church or the streets!!! Save that damned bullisht about Farrakhan bringing back The Nation for somebody that don’t know no better bruh… I aint the one!!! The Messenger said nobody was coming after him but God and here come you nigguhs with some damned “reminder.” Aint no reminder!!! The Messenger said nobody but God… God Damnit!!!
We are only as hard on him as The Messenger teaches us to be in Message To The Black Man in the chapter on hypocrites.
The Messenger is still the leader. We aint trying to be no leader. So if we aint got leader ability, so the hell what! We aint supposed to have it! We don’t even need it! The Messenger has it and he’s the leader. Duuuhhhh!!!!!
Minister Farrakhan is being accused of what he has been proven guilty of! Hypocrisy!!! Allah aint left that nigguh nothin but a damned hypocrite!!! The messenger said Allah wouldn’t leave us nobody else Dumbell!!! So where the hell you get this bullisht about him leaving Farrakhan for us? Huh!!! I’ll tell you where you got it! You got it from the no good bastard whom you serve as you should serve only Allah through his Messenger… that’s who!!!
Now get the hell out my face… and stay out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 9, 2008 at 10:58 am
You are the one with beef towards the MINISTER, so, it is on YOU to set up a meeting. Once again, How has your foolishness helped BLACK people. You dont remotely represent the MESSENGER in any capacity. “DUHHHHH” combined with the language that you used with the above statement simply makes you an obvious phoney. DR KHALLID had “WORKS”. Dont attempt to ride his dick to respect that you havent earned.
Neither YOU nor your girlfriend Jabari Shabbaz have any credibility and that which you seemed to have before this is blown. Only a certified idiot and stooge would follow someone weak and stupid as you.
Oh, yeah, we can all remember when the MESSENGER instructed his ministers to use the phrase “DUUHHHHH”.
Youre too dumb to be an agent.
January 9, 2008 at 3:03 pm
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! AS A SELF PROCLAIMED MINISTER OF THEM I AM SURPRISED AT YOUR DEMEANOR TOWARD THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU YOURSELF ACCUSED OF BEING DECEIVED. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU WERE DISCIPLINED BY MINISTER FARRAKHAN FOR YOUR MISCONDUCT,I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT YOU INVITED BROTHER KHALLID TO YOUR MOSQUE AFTER THE MINISTER FORBADE IT. THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO AN NOI MINISTER INVITING MALCOLM TO THE MOSQUE AFTER THEM FORBADE IT. YOU ARE BITTER BECAUSE THE MINISTER SAW YOU FOR THE HYPOCRITE THAT YOU ARE! YOU ONLY DISACSSOCIATED YOURSELF FROM THE “REAL” NOI BECAUSE THEY DISASSOCIATED THEMSELVES FROM YOU. YOU ACT LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED! DUUUH? ISN’T THAT VALLEY GIRL SLANG? BROTHER YOU ARE ACTUALLY INVITING “YOUR” PEOPLE, THE MESSENGERS PEOPLE TO A FIGHT? AGAIN “YOU” STATE THAT THE POSTERS ON THIS SIGHT ARE IGNORANT AND BEING DECEIVED. IT IS YOUR DUTY AS THE CIVILIZED THE SAVE THE UNCIVILIZED! I DID NOT KNOW THAT THEM TAUGHT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. IF I HAD EVER VISITED YOUR MOSQUE AND CAME UNDER YOUR TUTELAGE,I WOULD NOT BE A MEMBER AFTER READING YOUR IGNORANCE RESPONSES TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE TAUGHT,BUT FOR YOUR IDIOTIC DISPLAYS. THE MINISTER PROBABLY DID REFUSE TO MEET WITH YOU,AND JUST FROM OBSERVATION I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. WHAT’S FUNNY TO ME IS NONE OF THE POSTS THAT I’VE READ HAVE THREATENED YOU WITH BODILY HARM,YET YOU ARE ISSUING OUT THREATS. YOU COME OFF TO ME LIKE THE NOI FEATURED ON AMERICAN GANGSTER. YOU REPRESENT THE IGNORANT MASSES WHO CAN NOT INTELLEGENTLY DEFEND HIS/HER POSITION. THE CRACKER WOULD INVITE YOU ON HIS SHOW AND THOROUGHLY DISPATCH YOU,NOT TO MENTION YOUR FOLLOWERS. AS I TOLD YOU IN MY LAST POST BROTHER, ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE. YOU ACCUSE ANY ONE WHO DEFENDS THE HONORABLE MINISTER OF WORSHIPPING HIM. ARE YOU INSANE? ALLAH IS GOD AND BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO OTHER GOD,BUT WHO REPRESENTS THIS TRUTH? ERIC? HATE IT OR LOVE IT FARRAKHAN IS THEM’S NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE. BY THE WAY ERIC, WALLACE IS NOT THEM’S ONLY SON,SPEAK ON THAT ERIC! I PRAY THAT ALLAH SEES FIT TO SAVE YOU BROTHER ERIC.
January 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALL AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! BRO. ERIC YOU HAVE THIS INTENSE HATRED OF ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE HONORABLE MINISTER,HOW DO YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT T.H.E.M.? EVEN YOU MADE A VALID POINT ONE WOULD MISS IT DO TO YOUR GLARING IGNORANCE! BLACK PEOPLE WOULD INDEED BE STUPID IF WE FOUND ANY CREDIBILITY IN YOUR EMPTY WORDS. I REALLY FIND NO VALUE IN FUTURE DIALOGUE WITH YOU. IT IS YOU WHO IS TOO ARROGANT TO BE CORRECTED. I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU DEMONSTRATE THE LOVE FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER HAS. BROTHER IF YOU ARE NOT A FOOL THEN YOU ARE THE CLOSEST THING TO IT! I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD CHRISTIAN MINISTERS DISPLAY THE LEVEL OF IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY THAT YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTERS DISPLAY. YOU ARE A MISERABLE MAN AND MORE LIKE YAKUB THAN THOSE YOU ACCUSE,ARE YOU A DIRECT DESCENDANT? IF THE ISSUE WERE NOT SO SERIOUS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE A COMEDIAN! I KNOW OF NO ONE WHO HAS EVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU. MINISTER FARRAKHAN PROBABLY DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU EXIST. AS FAR AS THAT PHYSICAL STUFF THAT YOU SPEAK OF,TAKE IT TO BROTHER SUPREME. YOUR LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN! YOU SOUND MORE LIKE A HOMO-THUG DOING A WEAK IMITATION OF AN NOI MINISTER. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A COURSE A ACTION FOR BLACK PEOPLE? DUDE YOU ARE GARBAGE! YOU WILL NEVER BE RESPECTED AS A “REAL” MINISTER OF T.H.E.M. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 MEMBERS IN YOUR MOSQUE? HOW MUCH IS YOUR FAITH BASED INITIATIVE GRANT BROTHER? FROM YOUR TEACHINGS (NOT T.H.E.M) WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WAR WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE NOI BEFORE DEALING WITH THE REAL DEVIL. YOU ARE THE BLACK (WE ASSUME) BENEDICT ARNOLD. THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IS FARRAKHAN,NOTHING POSITIVE HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT HIM BY YOU NOR HAVE YOU SAID ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CLAIM TO REPRESENT,THIS IS THE REASON THAT ALL OF THE RESPONSES TO HAVE BEEN AS THEY HAVE BEEN. YOU ARE A FRAUD! YOUR WIFE IS PROBABLY SOME WHITE TRAILER TRASH. THIS WILL BE MY LAST RESPONSE TO YOUR SUPER SILLY ASS,I REFUSE TO DIGNIFY THIS GARBAGE SITE WITH ANOTHER RESPONSE.
January 9, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Megaspank1 says:
You are the one with beef towards the MINISTER, so, it is on YOU to set up a meeting. Once again, How has your foolishness helped BLACK people. You dont remotely represent the MESSENGER in any capacity. “DUHHHHH” combined with the language that you used with the above statement simply makes you an obvious phoney. DR KHALLID had “WORKS”. Dont attempt to ride his dick to respect that you havent earned.
Neither YOU nor your girlfriend Jabari Shabbaz have any credibility and that which you seemed to have before this is blown. Only a certified idiot and stooge would follow someone weak and stupid as you.
Oh, yeah, we can all remember when the MESSENGER instructed his ministers to use the phrase “DUUHHHHH”.
Youre too dumb to be an agent.
As Salaam Alaikum
It is not on us to set a meeting with Farrakhan. The Messenger didn’t teach us to ask hypocrites for meetings with them. He said be firm with them and strive hard AGAINST them. We are doing this.
You have not answered my question as to what lies have been told in the above article. You come here and speak of Khallid’s “Dick” and want to talk to me about language and credibility?
Tell us what Khallid’s “works” were. Tell us what “works” you insinuate we do not have. Tell us what respect we have not earned. What do you actually know of our works or the respect we have or have not earned?
Thank you for admitting we are not agents, but please make up your mind about our motives. Get your thoughts together and then come back at us.
January 9, 2008 at 7:06 pm
BIGBRO.AMIR1 Says:
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! AS A SELF PROCLAIMED MINISTER OF THEM I AM SURPRISED AT YOUR DEMEANOR TOWARD THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU YOURSELF ACCUSED OF BEING DECEIVED. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU WERE DISCIPLINED BY MINISTER FARRAKHAN FOR YOUR MISCONDUCT,I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT YOU INVITED BROTHER KHALLID TO YOUR MOSQUE AFTER THE MINISTER FORBADE IT. THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO AN NOI MINISTER INVITING MALCOLM TO THE MOSQUE AFTER THEM FORBADE IT. YOU ARE BITTER BECAUSE THE MINISTER SAW YOU FOR THE HYPOCRITE THAT YOU ARE! YOU ONLY DISACSSOCIATED YOURSELF FROM THE “REAL” NOI BECAUSE THEY DISASSOCIATED THEMSELVES FROM YOU. YOU ACT LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED! DUUUH? ISN’T THAT VALLEY GIRL SLANG? BROTHER YOU ARE ACTUALLY INVITING “YOUR” PEOPLE, THE MESSENGERS PEOPLE TO A FIGHT? AGAIN “YOU” STATE THAT THE POSTERS ON THIS SIGHT ARE IGNORANT AND BEING DECEIVED. IT IS YOUR DUTY AS THE CIVILIZED THE SAVE THE UNCIVILIZED! I DID NOT KNOW THAT THEM TAUGHT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. IF I HAD EVER VISITED YOUR MOSQUE AND CAME UNDER YOUR TUTELAGE,I WOULD NOT BE A MEMBER AFTER READING YOUR IGNORANCE RESPONSES TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE TAUGHT,BUT FOR YOUR IDIOTIC DISPLAYS. THE MINISTER PROBABLY DID REFUSE TO MEET WITH YOU,AND JUST FROM OBSERVATION I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. WHAT’S FUNNY TO ME IS NONE OF THE POSTS THAT I’VE READ HAVE THREATENED YOU WITH BODILY HARM,YET YOU ARE ISSUING OUT THREATS. YOU COME OFF TO ME LIKE THE NOI FEATURED ON AMERICAN GANGSTER. YOU REPRESENT THE IGNORANT MASSES WHO CAN NOT INTELLEGENTLY DEFEND HIS/HER POSITION. THE CRACKER WOULD INVITE YOU ON HIS SHOW AND THOROUGHLY DISPATCH YOU,NOT TO MENTION YOUR FOLLOWERS. AS I TOLD YOU IN MY LAST POST BROTHER, ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE. YOU ACCUSE ANY ONE WHO DEFENDS THE HONORABLE MINISTER OF WORSHIPPING HIM. ARE YOU INSANE? ALLAH IS GOD AND BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO OTHER GOD,BUT WHO REPRESENTS THIS TRUTH? ERIC? HATE IT OR LOVE IT FARRAKHAN IS THEM’S NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE. BY THE WAY ERIC, WALLACE IS NOT THEM’S ONLY SON,SPEAK ON THAT ERIC! I PRAY THAT ALLAH SEES FIT TO SAVE YOU BROTHER ERIC.
As Salaam Alaikum
Khallid did nothing close to Farrakhan what Malcolm did to The Messenger. That’s a very unjust comparison. Therefore there was no misconduct for Farrakhan to correct on our part. We were right to disobey him. The law was on our side and not his. Khallid was not in bad standing at the time. We had every right to invite him.
Our attitude towards the people of God is fine. It’s our attitude towards hypocrites and those who follow them that is not.
Chanel 2 investigative reporter Mark Winnie offered to do an interview with Eric Muhammad and then punked out at the last minute. He or someone over him obviously doubts I’d be dispatched by them as you say.
Farrakhan is a hypocrite. Period. Deal with it.
January 9, 2008 at 7:11 pm
BIGBRO.AMIR1 Says:
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALL AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! BRO. ERIC YOU HAVE THIS INTENSE HATRED OF ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE HONORABLE MINISTER,HOW DO YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT T.H.E.M.? EVEN YOU MADE A VALID POINT ONE WOULD MISS IT DO TO YOUR GLARING IGNORANCE! BLACK PEOPLE WOULD INDEED BE STUPID IF WE FOUND ANY CREDIBILITY IN YOUR EMPTY WORDS. I REALLY FIND NO VALUE IN FUTURE DIALOGUE WITH YOU. IT IS YOU WHO IS TOO ARROGANT TO BE CORRECTED. I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU DEMONSTRATE THE LOVE FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER HAS. BROTHER IF YOU ARE NOT A FOOL THEN YOU ARE THE CLOSEST THING TO IT! I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD CHRISTIAN MINISTERS DISPLAY THE LEVEL OF IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY THAT YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTERS DISPLAY. YOU ARE A MISERABLE MAN AND MORE LIKE YAKUB THAN THOSE YOU ACCUSE,ARE YOU A DIRECT DESCENDANT? IF THE ISSUE WERE NOT SO SERIOUS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE A COMEDIAN! I KNOW OF NO ONE WHO HAS EVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU. MINISTER FARRAKHAN PROBABLY DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU EXIST. AS FAR AS THAT PHYSICAL STUFF THAT YOU SPEAK OF,TAKE IT TO BROTHER SUPREME. YOUR LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN! YOU SOUND MORE LIKE A HOMO-THUG DOING A WEAK IMITATION OF AN NOI MINISTER. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A COURSE A ACTION FOR BLACK PEOPLE? DUDE YOU ARE GARBAGE! YOU WILL NEVER BE RESPECTED AS A “REAL” MINISTER OF T.H.E.M. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 MEMBERS IN YOUR MOSQUE? HOW MUCH IS YOUR FAITH BASED INITIATIVE GRANT BROTHER? FROM YOUR TEACHINGS (NOT T.H.E.M) WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WAR WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE NOI BEFORE DEALING WITH THE REAL DEVIL. YOU ARE THE BLACK (WE ASSUME) BENEDICT ARNOLD. THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IS FARRAKHAN,NOTHING POSITIVE HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT HIM BY YOU NOR HAVE YOU SAID ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CLAIM TO REPRESENT,THIS IS THE REASON THAT ALL OF THE RESPONSES TO HAVE BEEN AS THEY HAVE BEEN. YOU ARE A FRAUD! YOUR WIFE IS PROBABLY SOME WHITE TRAILER TRASH. THIS WILL BE MY LAST RESPONSE TO YOUR SUPER SILLY ASS,I REFUSE TO DIGNIFY THIS GARBAGE SITE WITH ANOTHER RESPONSE.
As Salaam Alaikum
This is nothing but pure emotionalism which you will eventually get over ans see the truth we are presenting.
As Salaam Alaikum
January 14, 2008 at 10:08 am
As Salaam Alaikum:Megaspank1 the way you talk don’t sound like a follower of T.H.E.M.,However you sound like YOU ARE GAY like most of LOUIS follower’s do. What work’s have you done yourself? YOU have done nothing but been a follower of some HYPOCRITE and selling those nothing FINAL CALLS and NASTY BEAN PIES. So SHUT UP IDIOT AND GO PICK UP A BOOK.
March 11, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Keep talkin Black to em Brotha!
March 11, 2008 at 6:59 pm
As Salaam Alaikum sister Keisha
Yes Maam! Much appreciation!
April 3, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Agent Eric.
April 12, 2008 at 1:07 am
ok people i’ve heard enough!!!
first of all you are a bunch of deviants following a bigger deviant please do your research all of you are in error as far as your teaching is concern i was in the noi for years as a child had an x dont you realize tha elijah muhammad turned over leadership of the then nation of islam to his son w.d. muhammad ? infact he made a speech to that effect he said in his speech ” I HAVE LEAD YOU TO ISLAM MY SON WILL LEAD YOU TO SALAT” EVEN YOUR MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN TOOK HIS SHAHADA( DECLARATION OF FAITH HE PRAYED THE SAME AS ALL MUSLIMS ( BY THE WAY YOU ARENT MUSLIM LOOK UP WHAT MAKES A MUSLIM IN THE QURAN OR IN THE SUNNA ) YOU CALL YOUR SELF MUSLIM BUT YOU ARE NO MORE THAN A BUNCH OF EXTREMELY LOST PEOPLE I PRAY THAT ONE DAY YOU WILL FIND RIGHT GUIDANCE ANYWAY I DIGRESS OLD LOUIE KNOWS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER BUT BECAUSE OF HIS NEED TO BE IN POWER TO BE INCHARGE HE LEFT TRUE ISLAM TURNED HIS BACK ON ALLAH(SWT) AND RECREATED ELIJAH POOLES ORGANIZATION PLEASE LOOK INTO YOUR HISTORY!! YOU WILL FIND AS MUCH AS YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT THAT I AM CORRECT IN WHAT I SAY AND OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME OF YOU MENTAL SLAVES WHO WILL STILL HOLD ON TO THE LIES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT AND CONTINUE TO FOLLOW SCREWY LOEY DOWN INTO THE HELL FIRE I IN FACT BEG YOU TO RESEARCH THIS AND FIND OUT FOR YOUR SELF THE TRUTH BEHIND MR LOIUSWILSON LOUIS FARRAKHAN’S RISE TO POWER YOU’LL BE GALD THAT YOU DID PEACE
April 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm
As Salaam Alaikum,
I come to this forum in peace and only want to try to reason with those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Bro. Eric, I must say that although you want to label Min. Farrakhan as a hypocrite, you continue to use many of his teachings in your lectures and you even carefully chose your words based upon the teachings of Min. Farrakhan (such as the use of “departure” when referring to the absence of the Messenger). I have viewed some of your lectures on youtube.com and you go out of your way to discredit the Hon. Min Farrakhan while at the same time referring to those teachings which weren’t taught prior to 1975.
This is rather questionable behaviour for one who sees Min. Farrakhan as deviating from the teachings. Let me ask you one question…do you believe that The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was divinely guided by Allah (Who appeared in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad)? I don’t see how you can claim to believe in the Messenger when you strive so diligently to discredit the Minister. When the Messenger called Minister Farrakhan on stage during the ‘Theology of Time’ lectures, he gave the explicit instruction to ALL who followed him to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan. Do you believe that the Messenger of Allah spoke these words in error, as if he didn’t have the backing or guidance of Allah behind him?
As I stated in the beginning of my post, I am not here to further any divisions between those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, who is TRULY the EXATLED CHRIST. I just want to ask that those who reject the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan reconsider their position in light of what is known of the relationship of the Min. to the Messenger. We do KNOW for a fact that Min. Farrakhan was the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (a post he was NEVER relieved of)…we do know that the Messenger put the Minister in his seat in front of a multitude of witnesses (something he didn’t do to any of his other ministers)…we do know that the Messenger gave him and only him the name “Farrakhan”…we do know that the Messenger told him that he (Min. Farrakhan) was worth more to him than all the wealth in the Earth (something that Dr. Khallid Muhammad bore witness to)…we do know that the Messenger told him to wear a hat that had only a star on it because he (the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad) said that Min. Farrakhan was a star with no equal…we do know that in the same lecture that the Messenger told his followers to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan, he also said that THROUGH HIM HE WOULD GET ALL OF HIS PEOPLE. Do you believe that the Messenger of ALLAH, who met God face to face, and stated that he was guided by Allah every step of the way, would make such statements and demonstrations in error? If so, you outright deny the power of Allah and exhibit a rejection of not only Min. Farrakhan, but of the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (because, believe it or not, all of the above are encompassed within the Messenger’s teachings too).
April 23, 2008 at 6:33 pm
CORRECTION: In the beginning of my last post, I meant to say those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan. Please excuse the mistake.
April 24, 2008 at 7:14 pm
foi_06 Says:
As Salaam Alaikum,
I come to this forum in peace and only want to try to reason with those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Bro. Eric, I must say that although you want to label Min. Farrakhan as a hypocrite, you continue to use many of his teachings in your lectures and you even carefully chose your words based upon the teachings of Min. Farrakhan (such as the use of “departure” when referring to the absence of the Messenger). I have viewed some of your lectures on youtube.com and you go out of your way to discredit the Hon. Min Farrakhan while at the same time referring to those teachings which weren’t taught prior to 1975.
This is rather questionable behaviour for one who sees Min. Farrakhan as deviating from the teachings. Let me ask you one question…do you believe that The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was divinely guided by Allah (Who appeared in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad)? I don’t see how you can claim to believe in the Messenger when you strive so diligently to discredit the Minister. When the Messenger called Minister Farrakhan on stage during the ‘Theology of Time’ lectures, he gave the explicit instruction to ALL who followed him to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan. Do you believe that the Messenger of Allah spoke these words in error, as if he didn’t have the backing or guidance of Allah behind him?
As I stated in the beginning of my post, I am not here to further any divisions between those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, who is TRULY the EXATLED CHRIST. I just want to ask that those who reject the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan reconsider their position in light of what is known of the relationship of the Min. to the Messenger. We do KNOW for a fact that Min. Farrakhan was the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (a post he was NEVER relieved of)…we do know that the Messenger put the Minister in his seat in front of a multitude of witnesses (something he didn’t do to any of his other ministers)…we do know that the Messenger gave him and only him the name “Farrakhan”…we do know that the Messenger told him that he (Min. Farrakhan) was worth more to him than all the wealth in the Earth (something that Dr. Khallid Muhammad bore witness to)…we do know that the Messenger told him to wear a hat that had only a star on it because he (the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad) said that Min. Farrakhan was a star with no equal…we do know that in the same lecture that the Messenger told his followers to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan, he also said that THROUGH HIM HE WOULD GET ALL OF HIS PEOPLE. Do you believe that the Messenger of ALLAH, who met God face to face, and stated that he was guided by Allah every step of the way, would make such statements and demonstrations in error? If so, you outright deny the power of Allah and exhibit a rejection of not only Min. Farrakhan, but of the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (because, believe it or not, all of the above are encompassed within the Messenger’s teachings too).
CORRECTION: In the beginning of my last post, I meant to say those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan. Please excuse the mistake.
ERIC MUHAMMAD SAYS:
Wa Alaikum Salaam Sir.
You who follow Minister Farrakhan are like children who continue to ask their parents for sweets, candy, or toys that their parents have told them over and over again they can not have. Although the parent has explained many times why they can’t have them, the child will continuously ask in that whiny voice…… “whyyyyyyyyy”…………………..? It’s pesty to the point of pathetic.
Minister Farrakhan labeled himself a hypocrite for teaching what he is now teaching 30 years ago. I’m not making this up. He said it. Deal with it. The Messenger said he wouldn’t give two cents for the Orthodox Islamic scholarship which Minister Farrakhan is now very heavily flirting with.
I teach The Messenger’s teachings. If Minister Farrakhan has any teachings, that proves he does not teach The Messenger’s teachings. You can’t have it both ways. Minister Farrakhan’s teaching is “based on” The Messenger’s teachings, but not “the same as” The Messenger’s teachings. That’s what the above article states and that’s what you just unwhittingly admitted by refering to what he teaches as “his teachings.”
The belief in The Messenger still being alive is absolutely not “Farrakhan’s teaching.” Farrakhan got it from The Messenger’s teaching. There are followers of The Messenger who never believed The Messenger was dead long before Bernard Cushmere (Jabril Muhammad) brought this to Farrakhan. Since it was “Jabril” who convinced Farrakhan of this, why the hell do you call it Farrakhan’s teaching instead of “Jabril’s” teaching? Duuuuuhhhhh!!! Why not call it by the names of the many followers of The Messenger who believed it without any teaching from Farrakhan or “Jabril?” Better yet……………. why not call it The Messenger’s teaching, since that’s what it really is?
If you’ve viewed my lectures on youtube, you’ve been given the rebuttals to the pesty, never ending stupidity you just came at me with. Damn brother! How many times are you going to keep coming with the same tired, old argument that has been successfully defeated over and over again? Minister Farrakhan is more than a sufficient discredit to himself for me not to have to “go out of my way” to discredit him. My job absolutely demands I discredit Minister Farrakhan just like his was to discredit Malcolm when Malcolm began teaching what Farrakhan is now teaching. What you and the faggot so-called Ministers of The Messenger don’t understand is to not discredit Farrakhan requires going out of ones way! The reason other Ministers don’t teach as I teach is because they’re too weak, too punk, and too God Damned sukkka to do so!!! They’ll explain it some other way, but the real reason is they just aint got the backbone to do it. They’re so scared they won’t even come around me when I do it. The Richmond Temples wouldn’t even come out and support the meeting we had Saturday! Not one member of one of their Temples showed up! They’ll come up with some reason that sounds good I’m sure, but the real reasons are nothing but cowardice and jealousy. They were angry/jealous I was invited to speak in their city and scared all hell might break loose at the meeting.
Spare me the “Messenger said blah blah blah about Farrakhan” crap. I aint interested! The Saviour himself said even greater things about Wallace D. Muhammad. The Saviour himself, it is taught, named Wallace D. Muhammad. The Saviour himself “prophesied” Wallace D. Muhammad would “help him in his mission.” Why the hell do you think Farrakhan’s clear and absolute superiority over Wallace D. Muhammad has never stopped the overwhelming majority of The Mesenger’s followers from remaining followers of Wallace D. Muhammad? That spoken by The Saviour about Wallace punks anything said by The Messenger about Farrakhan. You see how well Wallace worked out don’t you? Duuuuhhhhh!!!
The Messenger told thousands at the 369th st. armory in 1961 he didn’t teach Malcolm to speak, that it is Malcolm who taught him how to speak, and compared Malcolm’s relationship to him with Aaron’s to Moses!!! Should we follow Malclom now????? Duuuuuuhhhhh!!!!! Damn brother!!!!! I swear to you I love you as a Muslim and my brother, but you gittin on my Got Damn nerves!!!!! Git yo head out that nigguh’s azz and learn The Messenger!!!!! I did it and so can you!!!!!
I apologize for my roughness, but I mean what I say!!!!!
April 28, 2008 at 2:56 pm
To Agent Eric,
I will leave off Muhammad because you are not “worthy of praise”.
I read something about you on the Black Panther website in regard to the late Dr. Khalid Muhammad. Is that true of what you did to his dead body?
I can email you the website.
Also, If all of this is true of Minister Farrakhan, why were you in The NOI for 13 years before you left?
Did it take you 13 long years to come to your conclusions about THE MINISTER?
Finally, you are so lost Agent Eric. No one will ever take you serious. You sound like a “little sissy” in your lectures. I wish that I could meet you face-to-face for an intellectual debate or for a physical confrontation.
I really want to just SLAP THE HELL out of your ignorant ASS!! Farrakhan is teaching and uplifting THE Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s name throughout the world. And here comes your little sissy ass, with 5 people listening to your garbage.
It’s dumb niggas like you that impedes The Messengers progress!!
April 28, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Agent Eric,
You and others always say that “The Minister” was “One” of The Messengers best Ministers, not “The Best”.
Well where are all the others?
The Messenger had 250 Ministers!!
In your opinion, (since you know all the history). Name the Top 20 Ministers (past or present) of The Messengers Ministers.
And what progress have they made since 1975 in Building A Nation of Muslims?
We can see what our beloved Minister (Farrakhan) has produced.
I will be waiting for you to respond!!
April 28, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Eric is an Agent, being paid as an Agent:
Do not Trust this man!! His goal is to cause mischief!!
Eric Muhammad was kicked out of The Nation.
Place this site into your browser.
http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3939
When the Ministers (Dr.Khalid) body comes in Agent Akhee, Eric Muhammad with Barry get to the body first when it comes out of the cargo deck. Eric Muhammad then opens up the casket and opens Dr. Muhammad’s shirt open and begins feeling on Khallid Muhammad’s chest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbAD4MfwR5g
Place this “What is Drill?” in your You Tube browser.
THE TRUE MOSQUE #15
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
April 29, 2008 at 11:40 pm
AMuhammad Says:
April 28, 2008 at 3:43 pm edit
Eric is an Agent, being paid as an Agent:
Do not Trust this man!! His goal is to cause mischief!!
Eric Muhammad was kicked out of The Nation.
Place this site into your browser.
http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3939
When the Ministers (Dr.Khalid) body comes in Agent Akhee, Eric Muhammad with Barry get to the body first when it comes out of the cargo deck. Eric Muhammad then opens up the casket and opens Dr. Muhammad’s shirt open and begins feeling on Khallid Muhammad’s chest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbAD4MfwR5g
Place this “What is Drill?” in your You Tube browser.
THE TRUE MOSQUE #15
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
Nice try, but wrong Eric. That’s another Eric you’re talking about. Are you so stupid you can’t read? That Eric is from Jew York idiot! The bio you admit to have read tells you this Eric is from Jew Jersey. Do your homework jerk!!!
April 29, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Agent Eric,
You and others always say that “The Minister” was “One” of The Messengers best Ministers, not “The Best”.
Well where are all the others?
The Messenger had 250 Ministers!!
In your opinion, (since you know all the history). Name the Top 20 Ministers (past or present) of The Messengers Ministers.
And what progress have they made since 1975 in Building A Nation of Muslims?
We can see what our beloved Minister (Farrakhan) has produced.
I will be waiting for you to respond!!
The Messenger said your leader was only “one” of his strongest national preachers. Why try to put it on someone else? The Messenger said it in that quote you flunkies love to push so much! I don’t give a damn about that one or any other top ones! I have no opinion of them. Their work or lack thereof speaks for itself. Your leaders work also speaks for itself and that’s what is written of in the above article! Duuuuhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
April 30, 2008 at 12:02 am
AMuhammad Says:
April 28, 2008 at 2:56 pm edit
To Agent Eric,
I will leave off Muhammad because you are not “worthy of praise”.
I read something about you on the Black Panther website in regard to the late Dr. Khalid Muhammad. Is that true of what you did to his dead body?
I can email you the website.
Also, If all of this is true of Minister Farrakhan, why were you in The NOI for 13 years before you left?
Did it take you 13 long years to come to your conclusions about THE MINISTER?
Finally, you are so lost Agent Eric. No one will ever take you serious. You sound like a “little sissy” in your lectures. I wish that I could meet you face-to-face for an intellectual debate or for a physical confrontation.
I really want to just SLAP THE HELL out of your ignorant ASS!! Farrakhan is teaching and uplifting THE Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s name throughout the world. And here comes your little sissy ass, with 5 people listening to your garbage.
It’s dumb niggas like you that impedes The Messengers progress!!
Learn to read and do your homework idiot! That’s Eric Ture Muhammad from Jew York. Our Eric is Eric Muhammad from Jew Jersey. You think only one Eric Muhammad had dealings with Khallid?
Do your homework idiot. Eric Muhammad spent most of those 13 years as an outcast in your organization! Why didn’t Khallid ever leave? It was your organization that left him and not the other way around. Had it been up to him, he’d have died in your organization. It is belief that everybody’s at fault for the evils of your organization but the Got Damn nigguh at the head of it that keeps the few members you still have from jettin!!! When they realize Farrakhan’s the problem and certainly not the solution, they’ll be leaving too!
If you really wish to meet any of us, what’s stopping you? We’ve had several very public meetings and intend to have sveral more. You’ve already wasted several opportunities. Will you waste several more? If you’re really feeling so slappy, come git yo slap on nigguh! You betta pack a Got Damned bag though nigguh cuz it’s gone be a long day!!!
Farrakhan has been pissin and crappin all over The Messenger’s name around the world and that would be at least “6″ people listening to our meetings with your idiot azz included now wouldn’t it? Duuuuhhhhh!!!!!
May 6, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I will check back with you idiots in ONE year to see how much progress you have made in Building a Nation!!
It should not be that hard to go from 6 members to atleast 10 by then.
Agent Eric’s heart is filled with hatred and envy for just about everybody, not counting the 6 people that listen to him. He will NEVER..EVER be able to connect with people with a heart filled with bitterness and envy.
Dumb ass/ignorant ass/hating ass/Dr. Khalid Wannabe!!
“You will know the True Believers, for they are the successful ones”.
Good Luck Agent Eric.
May 6, 2008 at 7:16 pm
You still never answered the question Agent Eric.
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
Show us all your FRUIT, where is your work?…Temple #15. It will be shut down in 1 year,
May 6, 2008 at 9:56 pm
AMUHAMMAD says:
I will check back with you idiots in ONE year to see how much progress you have made in Building a Nation!!
It should not be that hard to go from 6 members to atleast 10 by then.
Agent Eric’s heart is filled with hatred and envy for just about everybody, not counting the 6 people that listen to him. He will NEVER..EVER be able to connect with