FARRAKHAN VS. ELIJAH
Many who love and admire Minister Louis Farrakhan do so out of ignorance with respect to the relationship between Minister Farrakhan and the man who taught Minister Farrakhan. The Man of whom I speak is The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Many who regard Minister Farrakhan as “the leader of The Nation of Islam” do so out of the same ignorance. When one understands the relationship of Minister Farrakhan to his former leader and teacher The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, one can clearly see that Minister Farrakhan’s claim to be “his extension” is undeniably false. His relationship to Messenger Muhammad, far from being one of dedicated servant and representative, is instead one of hostile enemy to the truth of Messenger Muhammad, which is the only salvation for the suffering masses of The Black Nation.
There is but one truth that will set us free and that truth is taught by none other than The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. This Minister Farrakhan knows, but will not teach without adding to it and taking away from it as Messenger Muhammad and The Holy Quran condemns. While The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was still among us, Minister Farrakhan was careful to represent him to the best of his ability. Since Messenger Muhammad has been away from us, Minister Farrakhan has deviated far from the strict teaching and program of The Messenger. He has done this all the while claiming to be the chosen representative of The Messenger to lead the followers of The Messenger in the absence of The Messenger. This has greatly deceived the people to whom Allah raised The Messenger. It is this that makes him a hostile enemy to the truth of The Messenger.
To understand the true relationship Minister Farrakhan holds to The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, one need only consider the relationship he holds to the son of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. Upon Messenger Muhammad’s departure, Imam Wallace D. Muhammad assumed leadership of his father’s “organization.” Within one year, the “new leader” of The Nation of Islam made drastic changes to his father’s teaching and program. Where was Minister Farrakhan while all these changes were being made, you might ask? This question is particularly important, considering he had been National Representative of the man whose work was being destroyed by a “hostile enemy” to the truth Messenger Muhammad had brought us from God in person Master Fard Muhammad. The answer may surprise you.
Upon Messenger Elijah Muhammad’s departure, Minister Farrakhan became the “top representative” of Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. As the mouthpiece of Imam Muhammad, Minister Farrakhan vocally represented the hostile and enemy positions Imam Wallace D. Muhammad assumed toward his father’s teaching and program. This Minister Farrakhan did until Imam Muhammad’s ill-treatment of him forced him out of the newly restructured organization. Contemplating a return to the musical career Messenger Muhammad compelled him to abandon, and with few other prospects of earning a living, he decided to establish an organization of his own and pattern it after the old one he had been a top spokesman in before Imam Muhammad changed its direction. Please pay close attention to the words “patterned after.” To pattern a thing after some other thing is not to duplicate that thing, but merely to produce something new from the basic pattern of that thing. In truth, this is what he has done with respect to both the former and latter organizations he has been a top spokesman for.
The organization Minister Farrakhan heads is based on aspects of Wallace D. Muhammad’s organization as well as Messenger Muhammad’s “organization.” Minister Farrakhan himself spoke of this in his Saviours’ Day address in the year 2000, where he announced his unity with Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. Minister Farrakhan is quoted as having said:” The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad brought the thesis. Imam Wallace D. Muhammad brought the anti-thesis. We don’t need the thesis or the anti-thesis. What we need is the synthesis.” This means a new movement based on the basic patterns of the old movements and leaves us with him as the leader of this new movement.
To say that we don’t need the thesis brought by Messenger Elijah Muhammad makes him a hostile enemy to the truth of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. This means he cannot be trusted by those who seek the truth Messenger Elijah Muhammad represents, which is our only salvation today. To say we don’t need the anti-thesis brought by the son of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Imam Wallace D. Muhammad makes him a hostile enemy to the truth he claims is taught by Imam Wallace D. Muhammad. This makes him untrustworthy to the Imam and his followers as well. This is the reason the Imam has recently rebuked Minister Farrakhan for failing to deliver on promises he made to the Imam to bring his organization more in line with the Orthodox Islamic tenets the Imam teaches. (See link for article) http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/b/2581
Messenger Elijah Muhammad teaches us that the hypocrite is the most hated of all people because you can never trust the hypocrite. This The Messenger teaches us in “Message To The Blackman In America” where he speaks of such hypocrites as “FALSE PROPHETS” that we should “BEWARE OF.” This is a fitting description of Minister Farrakhan. He is hated by the followers of both Messenger Muhammad and his son Wallace and trusted by neither of them. Minister Farrakhan opposes the truth taught by The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. This, as his own words quoted above prove, makes him a hostile enemy to the salvation offered us by our God and Saviour Allah, Master Fard Muhammad, through his Messenger, The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Those who wish to accept Minister Farrakhan as a true representative of Black Liberation are free to continue to do so. But those who wish to see the teaching and program of The Most honorable Elijah Muhammad carried on, are advised to take another look at this crooked deceiver who falsely claims to be “the extension” of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Thank you for reading these words and May Allah bless and keep you,
Minister Eric Muhammad
October 23, 2007 at 9:36 am |
ummmm be sure to send a copy of this to the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan…really unbelievable what you wrote – it truly explains the Anti-Christ behavior of those who surround you – if you want to know more Minister just email me – I think I have a paper trail of what transpired back in 05 and 06
October 23, 2007 at 11:10 am |
I want you to pay good attention to his preaching. His preaching is a bearing of witness to me and what God has given to me. This is one of the strongest national preachers that I have in the bounds of North America. Everywhere you hear him, listen to him. Everywhere you see him, look at him. Everywhere he advises you to go, go. Everywhere he advises you to stay from, stay from. For we are thankful to Allah for this great helper of mine, Min. Farrakhan.
He’s not a proud man. He’s a very humble man. If he can carry you across the lake without dropping you in; he don’t say when you get on the other side, ‘You see what I have done?’ He tells you, ‘You see what Allah has done.’ He doesn’t take it upon himself. He’s a mighty fine preacher. We hear him every week, and I say continue to hear our Min. Farrakhan. I thank you.
-The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Saviours’ Day 1972
June 23, 2009 at 2:54 pm |
The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah also said that he knew he was surounded by HYPOCRITES, even in his own family. That some of his best followers werent even in the Mosque. So who was that message actually being delivered to, brother ???
October 23, 2007 at 11:23 am |
As Salaam Alaikum
You guys kill me with this idiotic crap about these words somehow having special meaning with respect to Farrakhan. Use your heads for once in your lives!
These words applied to each and every Minister of The Messenger and not just Farrakhan. If you claim otherwise, name each and every Minister of The Messenger who’s preaching was not a bearing of witness to The Messenger and what God gave The Messenger. Name one even! Just one!
Read the article again and tell me Farrakhan’s preaching is today what it was in 1972! You’ve got to be kidding me!
Was Minister Farrakhan teaching that Master Fard Muhammad prayed to Allah in 1972? Was he teaching that separation was a last resort in 1972? Was he teaching that love transends color in 1972? Was he teaching that the devil is deceptive intelligence that rationalizes disobedience to God in 1972? Was he teaching we should fast with the Orthodox Muslims instead of December in 1972? Need I go on?
And lastly……….was he teaching that “WE DON’T NEED THE THESIS” (Messenger’s teaching) in 1972? Duuuhhhh!!!!!
Get off that bastard’s jock God Damnit and bear witness to the truth!!!!!
October 23, 2007 at 2:36 pm |
Actually no they didn’t apply to “These words applied to each and every Minister of The Messenger and not just Farrakhan.” What you and those like you fail to grasp is that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad MADE Farrakhan sit in HIS SEAT! He sat him in HIS CHAIR that represented the seat of leadership. Why did you leave that out? When The Honorable Elijah Muhammad wrote those words, he MADE Minister Farrakhan stand before the people. He did NOT at one time refer back to the section where ALL of the other MINISTERS sat…………or do you claim otherwise? What other Minister made over 300 radio broadcast each one being approved by T.H.E.M.? And lastly, since you claim Minister Farrakhan as being and enemy, why don’t you give back the “Muhammad” that your enemy gave you?
October 23, 2007 at 4:07 pm |
MC writes: “And lastly, since you claim Minister Farrakhan as being and enemy, why don’t you give back the “Muhammad” that your enemy gave you?”
Louis Farrakhan was never given the authority to give Holy-names. So Minister Eric Muhammad doesn’t have to give nothing back to him. Him (Eric Muhammad) wearing the name Muhammad is between him, ALLAH-Master Fard Muhammad and His Messenger, The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. In fact, Louis Farrakhan has tried to diminish the name “Muhammad”, by given it out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Messenger never gave out Holy-names so foolishly. The Messenger gave out Holy-names to his top laborers, Ministers, and/or those that earned them. In my humble opinion Minister Eric Muhammad is worthy to wear the name Muhammad because he teaches Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad that is, with no additions or subtractions. And Messenger Muhammad said “Leave my teachings as they is”, but Farrakhan changed them.
As Salaam Alaikum
October 23, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
Talib co-signs the following:
“Louis Farrakhan was never given the authority to give Holy-names. So Minister Eric Muhammad doesn’t have to give nothing back to him. Him (Eric Muhammad) wearing the name Muhammad is between him, ALLAH-Master Fard Muhammad and His Messenger-The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. In fact, Louis Farrakhan has tried to diminish the name “Muhammad”, by given it out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Messenger never gave out Holy-names so foolishly. The Messenger gave out Holy-names to his top Laborers, Ministers, and/or those that earned them. In my humble opinion Minister Eric Muhammad is worthy to wear the name “Muhammad” because he teaches Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad that is, with no additions or subtractions. And Messenger Muhammad said “Leave my teachings as they is”, but Farrakhan changed them.
As Salaam Alaikum”
October 23, 2007 at 6:07 pm |
MC WRITES:Actually no they didn’t apply to “These words applied to each and every Minister of The Messenger and not just Farrakhan.” What you and those like you fail to grasp is that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad MADE Farrakhan sit in HIS SEAT! He sat him in HIS CHAIR that represented the seat of leadership. Why did you leave that out? When The Honorable Elijah Muhammad wrote those words, he MADE Minister Farrakhan stand before the people. He did NOT at one time refer back to the section where ALL of the other MINISTERS sat…………or do you claim otherwise? What other Minister made over 300 radio broadcast each one being approved by T.H.E.M.? And lastly, since you claim Minister Farrakhan as being and enemy, why don’t you give back the “Muhammad” that your enemy gave you?
As Salaam Alaikum
I honestly left out the seat part because I forgot it. It doesn’t change anything though. My points are still valid. The preaching of all Ministers of The Messenger was a bearing of witness of him and the truth God gave him. You absolutely can not deny this can you? If so, name just one whose preaching was not. This is simple. Since you can not without slandering some Minister of The Messenger in ignorance, then those words of The Messenger would apply to them all.
As for the seat thing, will you give me a break? Whose seats did those who visited The Messenger’s home sit in? Weren’t those “his seats” as well? Was the seat at the Temple his only seat? This is silly! Why did The Messenger have to “approve” his 300 broadcasts? If the man is so damned divine, he should have been able to deliver those broadcasts “approval” free! Duuuhhhh!!! Needing The Messenger’s approval demonstrates he was nobody special, in terms of the possibility of screwing up the message! What the hypocrite needs today is The Messenger to approve what he intends to speak today as he did yesterday. Maybe then he could get it right!!!
Use your brain! I accuse the man of jacking up the teachings since 1975. You come with some words from The Messenger praising his teaching in 1972. Duuuhhhh!!! I didn’t say his preaching was substandard in 1972!!! I said “SINCE 1975!!!” Now………bring me some praise for this hypocrite’s preaching from The Messenger since then! It’s been all downhill since then!
Lastly……………..
Spare me the great stories about things said of Farrakhan by The Messenger. Why do the overwhelming majority of his followers still follow Wallace to this day? Why didn’t they follow Farrakhan instead? Why didn’t Farrakhan even attempt to lead them? Don’t you know about the even greater stories told about things said by THE SAVIOUR HIMSELF about Wallace? Have you noticed Wallace is named after The Saviour? Did you know The Saviour “wrote his name on the door” for The Messenger to give it to Wallace? Did you know also that he said Wallace was going to be a great help to him? Duuuhhhh!!! That’s why Wallace had enough juice to do what he did Einstein! He had much more props than Farrakhan. You so silly talkin bout some words and a damned seat! Who the hell you think had more juice than The Messenger’s own son? Wallace is his flesh and blood. Wallace was raised by him. Wallace was given his name by the God who raised him and was even named after that God and said of that God he’d be a great help to The Messenger raised by that God! Now, THAT’S PROPS YO!!! LOL.
Now if Wallace turned out the way he did in spite of all that, who cares what props Farrakhan is supposed to have had?
Answer my questions……………………………….
Was Minister Farrakhan teaching that Master Fard Muhammad prayed to Allah in 1972? Was he teaching that separation was a last resort in 1972? Was he teaching that love transends color in 1972? Was he teaching that the devil is deceptive intelligence that rationalizes disobedience to God in 1972? Was he teaching we should fast with the Orthodox Muslims instead of December in 1972? Need I go on?
And lastly……….was he teaching that “WE DON’T NEED THE THESIS” (Messenger’s teaching) in 1972?
October 23, 2007 at 11:48 pm |
What I want to know is when are negroes going to stop being CRABS IN A BARREL?
June 23, 2009 at 3:01 pm |
I’d like to know when TRUTH is going to be accepted and recognized as such, even when it is spoken (TRUTHFULLY) against someone we might admire and/or hold in the highest esteem. We call ourselves a people of TRUTH, but bwe are stuck in a “Cult of Personality.”
October 25, 2007 at 6:40 am |
Funny how one homeless bum could consider themself to be a Temple.
October 27, 2007 at 5:34 am |
Either you are lying outright or you don’t know your NOI history. Either you think that THEM didn’t know what was going to happen or he made a big mistake. As much as you and you ilk try and make Farrakhan a part of the fall and conspiracy. you do so only to your on exposure. Or perhaps the fact that there was a press conference announcing that jeremiah shabazz was the new National Representative. You seem to brush over exactly what took place in order to Farrakhan as an agent of the man who was used to destroy the NOI. Your blog is nothing more than a series of rants by a child to immature to understand the concept of algebra. I’ve read you BS rants about love NOT transcending color dispute the fact that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad defined love as “freedom. justice and equality”. He taught us to be civil in all of our affairs. But its funny how that gets left out of your “thesis”. If you truly understood the ministers words about “synthesis” and truly understood how the Holy Qur’an as well as The Honorable Elijah Muhammad described his own mission, you’d understand. But of course you haven’t accepted that mission. You’ve rejected his mission and have made your own mission of being against Farrakhan. That is something that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad NEVER sanctioned. You can shout these words from the highest mountain top and you’ll never be successful or taken seriously. Why? Because you have no work and the people can measure the result. They can see Farrakhan and ministers around the Nation of Islam have a love for Black people worldwide. People visit your blog and can only tell that you hate Farrakhan.
You ducked the question of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad MAKING Farrakhan sit in his seat. You tried to downplay the fact that his broadcast needed approval while overlooking the fact that what he spoke in those broadcast must have been approve by the man you claim he DOESN’T represent. You look and sound like the arrogant fool you are. You are contesting aspects of history that NOBODY who was around at that time disagrees with. When you get caught leaving things out of your BS “thesis” you try and down play it.
You and those like you have tried for YEARS to make The Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s words concerning Farrakhan apply to all of his ministers. The problem is anyone who listens to the audio can clearly hear different. Anybody who was there can tell you that he didn’t point at the rest of his ministers. We do not say that he didn’t love the rest of his ministers. We say that those instructions and words where for one minister and that was the minister of HIS choice, not yours. Just as it took place in the 1930’s you have people making excuses after the fact concerning why they don’t have to follow the choice of the man who they claim to follow. See brother, when you tell the whole story and let the people decide for themselves, they can see that you are raising a false issue. It is nothing more than a straw man to justify your position.
October 27, 2007 at 12:27 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum
I don’t have time right now to post all that I’d like to. So, I’ll just start with this.
http://noiwc.org/images/farrakhan.pdf
Notice the date of the interview is May 1977 and Farrakhan is Wallace’s International Representative!
Read it and weep!
June 23, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
I want to elaborate on this…
In the first Bilalian News that cameoutin 1976, Minister Farrakhan is in a front page photo with Warith. His statement: The Nation of Islam has made a smooth transition. In the second BN, Warith called Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever, a “trickster” and called his father a “deceiver.” In the third BN that came out, Warith said we were not of the Holy tribe Shabazz, but Bilalian people. Farrakhan did not stand up until AFTER THE MOST HONORABLE SILIS MUHAMMAD DID SO ON 21 AUGUST, 1977. And, after Farrakhan renamed Mosque#2 Mosque Maryam, hestarted instituting Jumah Prayer. So, he has not completely repented, or left his “orthodox Islamic” past behind him. He does not even mention the Holy name of Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever. The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah said in Message To The Blackman that you cannot believe in the prophet and not in the God who sent him. It is HYPOCRISY if you believe in one and not the other, according to THEM, (PBUH).
October 27, 2007 at 3:12 pm |
Were not my comments about him being the “National Representative for The Honorable Elijah Muhammad”? I said nothing about the “world community of Islam” which Farrakhan admitted was moving away from the central teaching. Was there or was there NOT a conspiracy to remove Farrakhan from his position? Did Farrakhan BLAST Wallace about his actions before he left him? Did Wallace publish in a Chicago paper that HE would be in charge of the NOI if anything happened to his father? Was there NOT a televised press conference announcing that Wallace was in charge and Jeremiah Shabazz was taking Farrakhan’s position? Was Farrakhan even in Chicago when all of this was taking place? You’re making an argument not based on history but the way you want to read history. And you are choosing to tell only what you think helps your position.
Farrakhan spent the latter half of 1977 and 1978 after he left Wallace telling people about what a mistake he made and WHY he stayed and WHY he left. All of that is public record. Not only is it NOT a secrete, but there are tapes made on collage campuses that deal with the issue and let people question him afterwards. Why not mention that? What your ilk tries to accomplish is people to link Farrakhan to your hatred of Wallace thus giving a reason to hate Farrakhan. Farrakhan was never properly relived of his post. The changes made were done under fraud and duress. As such they are null and void.
The childishness of your line of thinking is telling. Using your logic anyone who is encouraged to learn Arabic could be charged with taking on “Wallace’s teaching” despite the fact that The Honorable Elijah Muhammad also encouraged us to do so. Your hatred for Wallace has made your thinking limited in scope even in reading the history of the NOI. The Holy Qur’an talks about why Aaron didn’t stand up and tells us that Aaron didn’t want to cause disunity. That did not stop Allah from “empowering THEM BOTH” with authority. In other words, Allah (in the person of Master Fard Muhammad) has NO BEEF.
Your position is irrelevant.
July 2, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
The position is not IRRELEVANT.
If Farrakhan spent the latter of ‘77 & ‘78 admitting he made a mistake, as you claim, then why did he institute Jumah Prayer in the Mosques ???
October 29, 2007 at 1:30 am |
As Salaam Alaikum
I don’t have time right now to post all that I’d like to. So, I’ll just start with this.
http://noiwc.org/images/farrakhan.pdf
Notice the date of the interview is May 1977 and Farrakhan is Wallace’s International Representative!
Read it and weep!
Let’s continue shall we?
Notice the date is September 1976. We’re 1 and 1 half years into the game now and your man is Wallace’s “National” and International Representative.
Your position is the one irrelevant and it is you who are downplaying reality to suit your irrelevant position in support of your man’s hypocrisy. It is also you who seems to need a history lesson.
http://www.noiwc.org/images/farrakhanthebialianrep.pdf
Read it and weep!
October 29, 2007 at 4:47 am |
e was never properly relieved from his post as Wallace had no authority to do so. As such is “proper post” is that which assignment which the man with authority gave him. You keep mentioning being a representative of Wallace as if that is some sort of uncovered part of history. Did not Minister Farrakhan spend 1977-79 talking about his actions during Wallace’s change of direction? You’re walking back in time to try and find an issue with Farrakhan, but clearly side stepping the fact that HE has talked about, explained, and opened himself up to being questioned during that time. You have yet to acknowledge that. The Nation fell as The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would. This is without exception. You can find people that didn’t go with Wallace, and you can find people who stood up to lift the name of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, but none of them have had so much as a fraction of the success that Farrakhan has. Your M.O. has been exposed in the post above and you cannot get around that.
I’d tell you to get a late pass, but you’re about 60 semesters too late!
June 29, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
Farrakahn’s “post” isnt even really ay issue. You say the brother is “walking back in time’ trying to find fault…
Well, Warith went to Al’Ahzar Univ. in Cairo to study so-called orthodox Islam, in 1960. He came back in 1970 to apologize to The Nation, saying he would never defect again. In 1974, he was the minister at Mosque #20 (Philadelphia) and was teaching so-called orthodox Islam there at least one year before the (physical) death of his father. Looking back at this history, we understand why Warith destroyed The Nation. So-called orthodox Islam was his core belief, because he didnt believe Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever, was Allah in Person, and he didnt believe his father was The Last Messenger of Allah (in Person).
We look at Minister Farrakhan’s history in like manner. He left The Nation, just like Warith did. He came back to The Nation, just like Warith did. And when he returned his teachings and belief changed. I dont care what Farrakhan has “lip professed,” he changed the teachings and does not give praise to WFM. That alone makes him a HYPOCRITE, which you should know if you are a true student of the teachings of THEM (PBUH).
October 29, 2007 at 10:10 am |
He quit his post without proper relief. He then calls himself reassuming the post without proper reassumption. The Messenger never relieving him would only count if he never quit it. He did quit it. End of story. You can’t quit and then, when you don’t like the results from quitting, take back what you gave up by quitting. No military on earth would allow this. Should ours be the only one?
As for The Messenger choosing Farrakhan in 1972………………….
http://muhammadspeaks.com/MeetsthePress2.html
QUESTION: Have you designated a successor for yourself ?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: I do not do that. I cannot do that. I did not choose myself. God chose me and if He wants a successor, He will choose that one.
QUESTION: By what means would someone come up?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: I do not know that, because I do not believe there is one coming up. The work that I am doing, I don’t think God needs one, because when man and god have come face to face, as the old saying goes, then that is the end of it. When we are face to face with God, that is the end of it and so what would another one do? There is nothing for him to do.
QUESTION: After you are gone, Mr. Muhammad, the Nation of Islam will continue to exist but how?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: It will be a New Islam to what the old Orthodox Islam is, today. It will be altogether a New One.
QUESTION: You mean your successor will preside over a New Islam?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: There will be no successor. There is no need for a successor when a man has got the Divine truth and has brought you face to face with God.
QUESTION: How will your resources be administered?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: That will be carried on by the Nation. After setting up the Nation on the right way, or right path to take care of themselves, they do not need any more instruction on that. They will follow it as the Constitution of America has been followed.
QUESTION: Will it be run by local Mosques?
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: No, No, No. After this, the whole entire Nation of Black people will be governed Divinely and the government will be a Divine government and not something that is governed locally, like we have today. We will have a Divine government set up for us, and it will stand forever. We will not need any change.
QUESTION: What did you mean, ” new different from Orthodox ? ”
MESSENGER MUHAMMAD: I meant just that. We have a New Islam coming up. The Old Islam was led by white people, white Muslims, but this one will not be. This Islam will be established and led by Black Muslims, only.
As for Farrakhan’s so-called success, why reunite with Wallace after so much so-called success then? If he’s been so successful by disuniting from Wallace, why go back to Wallace?
Why hasn’t he blasted Wallace for that article? (See link for article) http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/b/2581
Instead he has responded by making drastic changes in his own organization which would seem to be making good on those promises Wallace busted his lying azz IN PUBLIC about having made to him and then not fulfilled them.
Looks like you’re the one who needs the late pass!
June 24, 2009 at 4:02 pm |
The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah says in the article that he will have no successor. So, let us say based on that, that neither The Most Hon. Silis Muhammad nor Minister Farrakhan can be viewed as a succesor to The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, (PBUH). The Messenger did say , however, that there would be a “New Islam” different from the Old (orthodox) Islam, and that the “new” would be governed by Black Muslims, not white ones. Our problem then would be UNITY. Farrakhan is a HYPOCRITE as you TRUTHFULLY point out, is it unreasonable then, to UNITE under the leadership of The Most Hon. Silis Muhammad for the establishment of this government and the UNITY of our people ???
October 29, 2007 at 10:48 am |
*sigh*
At no time have any students of Minister Farrakhan or even Farrakhan himself called or referred to himself as a “successor” . You’ve posted an interview that doesn’t apply to the situation at hand. Its called “GRASPING at what isn’t there” The changes that have taken place are no different than the changes that took place between 1937 and 1975. Wallace is YOUR focus, not ours. You question my point of fact dealing with Farrakhan’s and the Nation’s success and then revert back to Wallace as if it negates the success. Wallace is a non issue unless your mind has continued to focus on him 30 years after the fact. This is a subject that has been addressed IN PUBLIC and ON THE RECORD for any and all to hear from 1977-1981 but here you are posting on the internet like discovered some untold truth. The Nation fell just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would. That included Farrakhan. The Nation would rose again just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would, and people are listening to Farrakhan just like He advised us to. Farrakhan repented just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said he would, and he is BACKING FARRAKHAN just like he said he would.
June 29, 2009 at 3:24 pm |
So Farrakhan isnt THEM’s successor, as in “successor in office.” Surely, Farrakhan is not a “messenger.” But someone had to assume the Leadership of The Nation after THEM’s (physical) death, departure, or whatever you want to call it. A HYPOCRITE is your Leader, so what does that make you ??? And I assure you that The Hon. Elijah Muhammad (PBUH) is not backing Farrakhan’s HYPOCRISY.
October 29, 2007 at 1:01 pm |
MC Says: *sigh*
At no time have any students of Minister Farrakhan or even Farrakhan himself called or referred to himself as a “successor” . You’ve posted an interview that doesn’t apply to the situation at hand. Its called “GRASPING at what isn’t there” The changes that have taken place are no different than the changes that took place between 1937 and 1975. Wallace is YOUR focus, not ours. You question my point of fact dealing with Farrakhan’s and the Nation’s success and then revert back to Wallace as if it negates the success. Wallace is a non issue unless your mind has continued to focus on him 30 years after the fact. This is a subject that has been addressed IN PUBLIC and ON THE RECORD for any and all to hear from 1977-1981 but here you are posting on the internet like discovered some untold truth. The Nation fell just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would. That included Farrakhan. The Nation would rose again just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said it would, and people are listening to Farrakhan just like He advised us to. Farrakhan repented just like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said he would, and he is BACKING FARRAKHAN just like he said he would.
*smacking lips and sighing*
You’re a liar. Farrakhan is a liar. You who follow him and he himself have referred to him as a “DIVINE REMINDER,” not to mention other such titles. If he is a “DIVINE REMINDER,” that makes him a successor to The Messenger who actually was a “DIVINE REMINDER” in our midst. So, the interview does so apply to this situation. The changes that have taken place are quite different than those of which you speak. Farrakhan is bending over for Wallace. This never happened from 1937-1975. Wallace is Farrakhan’s focus. Farrakhan is the one who has united with him. Farrakhan is the one who keeps bringing him into the picture. Wallace was out of the way. Farrakhan brought him back in the way. So, what are you talking about? If Farrakhan had just left him alone, we wouldn’t be discussing him. Duuuhhhh! Farrakhan is the one reverting back to Wallace and that is what negates the so-called success. Wallace is so an issue because Farrakhan has once again made him an issue. The overwhelming majority of the people who admire Farrakhan are not aware of this history. We are 30 years up from it. How many people do you think are up on some history from 30 years ago? The Nation has not risen again! You Farrakhanites need to stop that lie! Negroes started wearing bowties and eatin bean pies again! That’s it! The Messenger’s teaching and program has absolutely not been brought back. Farrakhan’s program and teaching has been brought up. It is patterned after The Messenger’s, but is something entirely new and not The Messenger’s.
Fewer and fewer people are listening to Farrakhan and if he was being backed by The Messenger, we wouldn’t be having this conversation!
June 23, 2009 at 3:05 pm |
If Minister Farrakhan repented, why, after he supposidly resurrected The Nation, did he institute Jumah Prayer in the mosque ???
June 24, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I’ll tell you why…
Those Arabs were giving Farrakhan money to promote so-called orthodox Islam. Khadafi, himself, tried to give Farrakhan 5-million but the U.S. government said “no.” Farrakhan is a suppoter of the “Old Islam” that THEM (PBUH) tells us is going to fail as the “New Islam” rises to POWER in the West.
Anybody who has been paying attntion to the TRUTH on this site and not getting caught up in the emotional foolishness of “personality-worship” knows that Farrakhan is DEVIATING from the teachings of THEM (PBUH). And that Farrakhan is not going to lead you into the “New Islam.” All you have to do is evaluate his actions against the teachings of THEM (PBUH), and you find nothing but inconsistency.
October 29, 2007 at 8:41 pm |
“Fewer and fewer people are listening to Farrakhan and if he was being backed by The Messenger, we wouldn’t be having this conversation!”
The quote above is just stupid. Especially since the Nation’s mosque where all packed sunday with young people to hear from him. Especially since Atlanta (the place where you dwell) is STILL talking about Farrakhan but NOT talking about you.
reminder |ri?m?nd?r| noun a thing that causes someone to remember something : the watchtower is a reminder of the days when an enemy might appear at any moment. • a message or communication designed to ensure that someone remembers something. • a letter sent to remind someone of an obligation, esp. to pay a bill.
1 a: to come next after another in office or position or in possession of an estate; especially : to inherit sovereignty, rank, or title b: to follow after another in order2 a: to turn out well b: to attain a desired object or end 3obsolete : to pass to a person by inheritancetransitive verb1: to follow in sequence and especially immediately2: to come after as heir or successor
Reminder is not the same as SUCCESSOR. To be reminded doesn’t make you a successor. As you have so clearly side stepped, Minister Farrakhan is acting in the capacity of “Representivitive”. He has stated that he is sitting The Messengers seat, not that the sit belongs to him. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad was a reminder that a man named Fard Muhammad visited us. Did that make him a successor? No. Did HE every claim to be a successor? No. Did we ever call him a successor? No. Did anybody claim that he was trying to be a successor? Yes! Who where they? They were who The Honorable Elijah Muhammad called hypocrites!
Your anti Farrakhan movement brings up Wallace at every turn. Wallace was in and out of the Nation and his FATHER saw fit to permit that. He didn’t stop him from being his son even after he wrote what he wrote about him in 1965. Now, Farrakhan embraced Wallace during Saviour day 2000. Wallace hasn’t taught FOI class. He has NO authority over the FOI or MGT. He has NO say in the Nation’s affairs and Minister Farrakhan has not yielded or differed to him on making decisions concerning our movement. Yet, at every turn you and your ilk try and paint a picture that would suggest that he’s taking direction from Wallace.
You call me a liar, but will not answer directly on the truth or falsity of the existence of lectures recorded from 1977 to 1981 that deal with his fall in DEPTH. You call me a liar but will not site anything other than your own conjecture to back your position. You call me a liar but have yet to name anyone who was around back then or now that supports your view.
The Nation of Islam has always taught on the nature of the devil, but we are not here to satisfy those who only wish to hate them. We are about the rise of the Black nation. Likewise we are not here to satisfy your need to hate Wallace. Wallace served a purpose just as Yacub served a purpose. You search activities to find signs of what you think is “Wallace’s teaching” and gloss over The Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s words on the subject.
October 30, 2007 at 11:08 am |
TO MC
My quote is not stupid. It’s true. The conditions in The Black Nation are a bearing of witness that they are true. Our youth are certainly not listening to Farrakhan any longer. They see that he has sold them out. He had them fooled for a minute, but they have wised up to him and you who follow him. Please do not presume it upon yourself to tell me who Black people are or are not talking about in Atlanta. Unless you’re here too, I know better than you. You’re telling me nobody’s talking about us? And you know this how? Prove that by presenting your evidence and citing your sources. Again………….if nobody were talking about us, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. You wouldn’t spend this much time going back and forth with me unless you felt otherwise than you are claiming. I am more than intelligent enough to realize this. If Farrakhan is so significant and we are so insignificant, what are you arguing with me for then? Why waste your time arguing with such a nothing as myself?
The definition you provided is not relevant. I didn’t say Farrakhan has claimed to be a “reminder.” I said “DIVINE REMINDER.” Therefore I was right in the point I made. The Messenger clearly said no “DIVINE REMINDER” would come after him. Farrakhan has also claimed to be a “DIVINE COMFORTER.” He said here in Atlanta in 93 I believe…..”I am to Black people what the pope is to white people.” The Messenger is the one who is to Black people what the pope is to white people. Master Fard Muhammad is Christ. That’s who The Mesenger taught is Christ. The Messenger is The Vicar of Christ. Farrakhan got it twisted and he has twisted you who follow him. The Messenger is a reminder of the prophets before him of the prophesies they made of him. Only Prophets, Messengers, Warners, etc. are reminders in the context of which we speak. They are reminders of the divine men raised before them and given the same mission as them. All others are “FOLLOWERS OF THE REMINDERS.” Duuuhhhh!!! Read your Quran Einstein! You will find two types written of in the Quran. The Reminders and the followers of the reminders. There is no room for any of us, including Farrakhan, to be reminders. That stopped with The Messenger. He is the last of the reminders. We only have room to be followers of the reminder.
Why do you insist on denying reality? I told your hardheaded azz it is Farrakhan that brought Wallace in this picture!!! He had Wallace beat! He didn’t have to bring him back in the picture, but he did. Why? Why embrace a hypocrite? That aint The Messenger’s teaching! Wallace is a notorious hypocrite and Farrakhan embraces this bastard???!!! That alone tells the story man………..WAKE UP!!!!!
Your point about The Messenger’s actions toward Wallace proves my point about Farrakhan. It proves his dealing with Farrakhan was no different. If the props he gave Wallace didn’t mean Wallace was down for the cause, then the props he gave Farrakhan didn’t mean he was either. You either is or you aint…..I don’t give a God Damn what The Messenger said bout yo raggedy azz! If you bout it, you bout it God Damnit……..If you doubt it, you doubt it! Don’t no damned words bout you from The Messenger change that! The nigguh’s a God Damned hypocrite! His “actions” speak a hell of a lot louder than any “words” of The Messenger!
I have quoted from the lectures you mention from 77-81 to prove my point Einstein! That’s where I got the 60%-40% quote from. Duuuhhhh! His explanations leave out the real truth of his motivations. His actions though clear things up quite well.
December 5, 2007 at 8:49 am |
ASA,
For me I did not know the Messenger when he was hear. I have grown to love him greatly because of Minster Farrakhan’s preaching. I am not one that follows anyone with out question. I have my own mind. I am god in my own right. Moreever, I see the God in Minister Farrakhan. I can connect with that spirit of Allah. He has made Allah coming in the person of Master Fard Muhammad rational TO ME.
I think we as followers of the Hon Elijah Muhammad have a bigger enemy then ourselves. No matter what you think of one brother or another he is not your open enemy. The devil is. So, we must find away to be whole and work together for the liberation of our people. Whatever will do that the fastest is appropriate.
We all have to answer to Allah. He is very interested in what we do as it relates to saving our people.
HAALL
December 17, 2007 at 12:59 pm |
NOITemple15,
You need to study your Supreme Wisdom, because it is clear you do not know who the real enemy is. Yakub was a “black man”, and he created the devil/s starting with a single thought, and put that same thought/mentality into the minds of his created devil/s.
When I read your post, the first thing that comes to my mind about you is… “Yakub” himself.
One of the meanings of devil is also…one who slanders!
June 27, 2009 at 11:48 am |
The Hon. Elijah Muhammad,(PBUH) taught us that no Blackman can be a devil because it is not in his nature to do that. He may act as a “helper” of the devil, but he himself is not a devil. Ya’ kub was of the Original Black Nation. If Ya’kub was a devil, then the 30% who were dissatisfied over God being man were also devils, because their dissatisfaction caused nature to produce a man who would bring about a change, and that man was Ya’kub.
Ya’kub made a race that would prove to you that there was no God but man. When you got lyched, burned at the stake, etc. and called on that “spirit god” there was no help for you . You need to study the teachings, brother. It is amazing to me that so many of us take Ya’kub out of his true context and make him something other than what he is. The Hon. Elijah Muhammad, (PBUH) said tha Adam was the first crook, or the first to do evil.
December 27, 2007 at 5:17 pm |
NOITEMPLE15,
Tell me this, how exactly does it help our plight as BLACK people by attacking MINISTER FARRAKHAN? You make our true enemy comfortable.
He speaks truth to power and won’t cower down especially regarding those so called jews who are not actually jews who invaded PALESTINE under false identity and also degrades BLACKS in amerikkka on all levels.
Are you familiar with COINTELPRO?
How can this division help BLACK people? If you have beef with MINISTER FARRAKHAN both the BIBLE and QURAN lay a solid foundation for conflict resolution. You should meet with him and discuss the matter face to face like a MAN.
What you are doing is childish, irresponsible, and foolish. In a day and age where the government is jumping on BLACK people with both feet and even sending us to jail for violating the rights of “DOGS” that we as BLACK people have never been afforded. Michael Vick serving time for a damned dog. Barry Bonds being witch hunted for “ALLEGED” steroids on the heels of shatterring the HOME RUN RECORD OF ALL TIME. And all of the energy that you can muster up, you bash MINISTER FARRAKHAN?
You sound like a damned agent! Other than bash the MINISTER what in the hell have you done?
We dont have to agree on every single matter. The caucasians strength against BLACK people is his ability to have serious differences and yet remain unified. You are welcome to email me!
June 29, 2009 at 3:34 pm |
“Tell me this, how does it help our plight as BLACK people by ATTACKING Minister Farrakhan? You make our true enemy comfortable.”
Brother, what you fail or refuse to understand is that it helps “our plight as BLACK people” to come to the realization that Minister Farrakhan is “an imposter.” When you come to that realization and accept the TRUTH of it, then you have to look at The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad because he is the only one left. He is the One who is teaching the TRUTH without deviations. This isnt about ATTACKING Farrakhan, it is about seeking out The Truth. When TRUTH comes falsehood must perish. Qur’an 17:81.
December 27, 2007 at 6:16 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum
Please point out the lies contained in the above article. I’ll be waiting……..
December 27, 2007 at 7:26 pm |
You are so far out in left field that you could only be brought into reality with divine intervention.
Have you ever even attempted to speak with the MINISTER face to face like a MAN?
As more and more BLACK people are destroyed by this beast (amerikkka) you will be too busy bashing MINISTER FARRAKHAN.
You have the spirit of envy and jealousy. There is no way to appease that type of spirit.
Once again, other than bashing MINISTER FARRAKHAN, what have you done concerning this beast that plans to destroy us all?
December 27, 2007 at 7:33 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum
I’ll ask again……………………
What lies were written in the article above?
I’m still waiting.
December 29, 2007 at 7:19 pm |
I can’t believe that the above article is titled Farrakhan vs. Elijah. To make such a comparison is utterly ridiculous.
If anything, it should be titled Farrakhan vs. Eric Muhammad, and the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Oh, and by the way noitemple15,
The question from the poster was, “why attack the Minister and how does its help blacks here in Amerikkka, and what have you done concerning the beast who plans to destroy us all?” Please stick with the contentions made and stop throwing your Red Herrings out there.
December 30, 2007 at 1:23 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum
I don’t give a damn what the question from the poster was! So don’t come throwing it back at me like it’s supposed to intimidate me or something. I’m sticking to the contentions made in the article and no other contentions. Those contentions are either true or false. If you contend they are false, point out those contentions which are false. If they are true, there’s nothing wrong with them being made.
Now……………………..
I’ll ask again……………………
What lies were written in the article above?
I’m still waiting.
December 31, 2007 at 3:09 am |
Salaam Eric
Minister Louis Farrakhan is now and has been consistently”working” towards the liberation of our people and has openly discussed his sojourn in the Nation of Islam. Those envious of what Master Fard Muhammad has blessed him to accomplish in the name of his teacher, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, are enraged that he is being used as a catalyst to bring forth the true end of the devils rule. You should be more grateful that he has been/is a superlative representation of what brotherhood and striving for righteousness is. You benefit greatly from his representation, for were it not for that you may not have the opportunity to out live the grave mistake you are making in your baseless rants regarding a GOOD MAN.
I strongly suggest that you go to your field officer(at whatever government agency you work for) and beg them for another assignment. THIS IS NOT THE HOUR TO BE AN ENEMY TO THE RISE OF OUR PEOPLE.
Plainly, LEAVE FARRAKHAN ALONE!
December 31, 2007 at 3:08 pm |
Wa Alaikum Salaam Bro. George
I will ask you the same question………………………….
What lies were written in the above article? Point them out please.
I’ll be waiting……………………………..
I would strongly suggest that you and those of like mind quit threatening me before I make you make good on those threats whether you want to or not! Feel me?……………………………………
January 2, 2008 at 11:19 am |
The national clandestine services have found themselves another mule in the person of one eric muhammad. This is the new stage of COINTELPRO in which Steve Cokely coined “NOWINTELPRO”.
This alleged brother has shared nothing but foolishness and baseless responses. If you could hold eric muhammad up to the microscope you would find mmuch dirt that he would not like to explain. This brother cant even answer how it helps the BLACK NATION by senseless bashing of MINISTER FARRAKHAN and why, if he feels this way, he doesnt meet with the MINISTER himself like a GODLY MAN. Slander is the character of the shaitan. He slanders and runs.
eric muhammad is a hater, agent, and a weak slanderer of decent people.
January 2, 2008 at 11:00 pm |
Salaam Bro. Eric
I found it very interesting to read the posting on your site dated 10/17/06. It gives a chronolgy of your “movements” in and around the Nation of Islam. Interesting that you mention your affiliation with the Honorable Louis Farrakhan from 1983 to 1996 when you “fell out of the mosque” or recieved another assignment from your field office(FBI,CIA or whatever). Exiled, yeah right!
1996-2003 Practicing mischiefmaking somewhere else (or being retrained for your new “assignment”)
You uplift the name of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, a man who is all about UNITY, but you state on your site that “Muhammad Temple#15 is an INDEPENDENT TEMPLE AND IS NOT AFFLIATED WITH ANY OTHER TEMPLES AT THIS TIME”.
Hmmm! When did the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad set up a temple INDEPENDENT of all of other temples designed to raise the dead to life ??
When the enemy finishes with you I hope you get more $$$ than William O’neil( he set up FRED HAMPTON) and Gene Roberts(he breathed death into Malcolm’s lungs at the Audubon Ballroom)
Your weak attempts to use “old” articles and info to demonize the Honorable Louis Farrakhan makes you look like a “damned fool”.
You give agents/the whiteman’s n****rs a bad name.
Again, I strongly reccomend that you BEG your field officer for a new assignment. Peace! I’m Done
P.S. Read Message to the Blackman pgs 252-254, your actions are addressed by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Inshallah, his words can reach you.
June 24, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
You say “weak attempts to use old articles and info to demonize the Honorable Louis Farrakhan…” You dont think the OLD articles and info have any bearing on Farrakhan’s CONTEMPORARY conduct as a so-called leader ??? Do you simply DISMISS Farrakhan’s own words as MEANINGLESS and/or IRRELEVANT to his failure or refusal to fully REPRESENT the teachings of THEM (Peace Be Upon Him) ??? Does the TRUTH mean ANYTHING TO YOU ??? Farrakhan does a good job demonizing himself. To you, there must be nothing wrong with Jumah Prayer of the Old Islam being practiced in the mosques of the “New Islam.” Yeah, the Messenger addresses those who point out the faults of others, but when those faults threaten to destroy a Nation, someone has to have the courage to speak the TRUTH. TRUTH is supposed to count for something with a TRUTHFUL people, but from most of what I see here, TRUTH MEANS NOTHING. You cant even evaluate what Minister Eric is saying rationally and intelligently without going through emotional crisis, and you wonder why you are still subject to the rule of the devil when his time is up.
January 3, 2008 at 6:00 pm |
Megaspank1 Says:
The national clandestine services have found themselves another mule in the person of one eric muhammad. This is the new stage of COINTELPRO in which Steve Cokely coined “NOWINTELPRO”.
This alleged brother has shared nothing but foolishness and baseless responses. If you could hold eric muhammad up to the microscope you would find mmuch dirt that he would not like to explain. This brother cant even answer how it helps the BLACK NATION by senseless bashing of MINISTER FARRAKHAN and why, if he feels this way, he doesnt meet with the MINISTER himself like a GODLY MAN. Slander is the character of the shaitan. He slanders and runs.
eric muhammad is a hater, agent, and a weak slanderer of decent people.
Our Response is:
If the above article “shares” nothing but foolishness, why have you not pointed it out? I’ve asked you to do so more than once. It is therefore your own responses which are baseless.
Stop pretending to be wiser than you actually are. What agent activity are we engaged in that can do anything Louis Farrakhan is not already doing? Think before you type. Pull your head out of Louis Farrakhan’s behind and you’ll be able to. The F.B.I. files point out clearly what their objective is with regards to “The Nation of Islam.” They say it is to turn it away from the militant black nationalist/separatist agenda and change it to a more spiritual “SELF IMPROVEMENT” agenda. They say it is to lead us in a more “Orthodox” expression of Islam. Farrakhan took his study groups out of The Messenger’s books in 1986 and introduced “SELF IMPROVEMENT” study guides. He said they were to make us more knowledgable of the Quran. He introduced Salat that same year. It was taught in F.O.I. class. Your man gives you a course of study named after the F.B.I.’s objective (SELF IMPROVEMENT). He introduces a more “orthodox” course of study and practice. He brought in Salat, increased focus on Quranic studies, and instructs that Master Fard Muhammad’s name and The Messenger’s name no longer be included in our openings at meetings. He said open by just saying “In the name of Allah the beneficent the merciful, I bear witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger.” No more “In the person of Master Fard Muhammad.” No more “The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is the last and greatest Messenger of Allah.” These are all things the F.B.I. spent millions of dollars to have Wallace D. Muhammad do 30 years ago. Even the study guides! You probably didn’t know Wallace did that first too did you?
With Farrakhan having done so much to achieve their objective, what the hell does your Farrakhan worshipping self think there is left for us to do? Duuuuuhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please think before you type. But you’ll have to pull your head out of Farrakhan’s behind to do so. You think you can do that? I don’t. But who knows? Maybe you’ll surprise me.
If there’s so much dirt you can expose about “eric muhammad”, expose it then. We’re waiting to read it.
Lastly……………………….
Quit acting like “eric muhammad” “WON’T” meet with Farakhan. Farrakhan has not requested any such meeting and been turned down by “eric muhammad.”
Some of us watched Minister Keith Muhammad write letters to Farrakhan and telephone him for 2 years in the late 80’s only to be jilted by him. Then we watched again as Khallid Muhammad called and called and called and called for 2 years trying to meet with him and he did the same thing to him. Farrakhan only meets with those who kiss his azz or those who are Sunni’s and Christians these days. He is not the slightest bit interested in meeting with any “eric muhammad.” Period.
And just in case you’re wondering………………… yes………. “eric muhammad” has written him on at least 2 occasions as well in the early 90’s and received the same treatment.
Please think before you type. But you’ll absolutely have to pull your head out of Farrakhan’s behind to do so!!!
January 3, 2008 at 6:23 pm |
BROGEORGEA Says:
Salaam Bro. Eric
I found it very interesting to read the posting on your site dated 10/17/06. It gives a chronolgy of your “movements” in and around the Nation of Islam. Interesting that you mention your affiliation with the Honorable Louis Farrakhan from 1983 to 1996 when you “fell out of the mosque” or recieved another assignment from your field office(FBI,CIA or whatever). Exiled, yeah right!
1996-2003 Practicing mischiefmaking somewhere else (or being retrained for your new “assignment”)
You uplift the name of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, a man who is all about UNITY, but you state on your site that “Muhammad Temple#15 is an INDEPENDENT TEMPLE AND IS NOT AFFLIATED WITH ANY OTHER TEMPLES AT THIS TIME”.
Hmmm! When did the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad set up a temple INDEPENDENT of all of other temples designed to raise the dead to life ??
When the enemy finishes with you I hope you get more $$$ than William O’neil( he set up FRED HAMPTON) and Gene Roberts(he breathed death into Malcolm’s lungs at the Audubon Ballroom)
Your weak attempts to use “old” articles and info to demonize the Honorable Louis Farrakhan makes you look like a “damned fool”.
You give agents/the whiteman’s n****rs a bad name.
Again, I strongly reccomend that you BEG your field officer for a new assignment. Peace! I’m Done
P.S. Read Message to the Blackman pgs 252-254, your actions are addressed by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Inshallah, his words can reach you.
Our response is:
Wa Alaikum Salaam Sir
Trying to sound wise huh? If you could read a detailed account of “eric muhammad’s” movements, how does that square with agent activity? Duuuhhhh!!! Please post your detailed movements for us all to read so we’ll know you’re not an agent. We know a hell of a lot more about “eric muhammad’s” movements than we do about yours…….. now don’t we? Farrakhan has made you guys as silly as hell!
“eric muhammad” was exiled by Don Muhammad via a three way telephone conversation with Khadir Muhammad, Don Muhammad, and himself. It was for inviting Khallid Muhammad to speak at the westside community center in Asbury Park, Jew Jersey. So take your “yeah right” and shove it Einstein!
As for “Unity”…. you seem to have forgotten the part of the statement where “eric muhammad” said his temple enjoys friendly relations with other Ministers and Temples. Duuuhhhh!!!
Old articles? These articles would have no need to be mentioned if Farrakhan were not doing the same crap again today. Duuuhhhh!!!
Louis Farrakhan has done more to help the govenment destroy The Messenger’s teaching and program than “eric muhammad” could ever do. And guess what? He appears to be going at it again.
January 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm |
INT THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THER IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. I GREET YOU ALL IN THE THE GREETING WORDS OF PEACE,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY THAT,IF ANY OF US CLAIM TO BE FOLLOWERS OF T.H.E.M THEN WHY ARE WE CARRYING ON IN A MANNER THAT MAKES OUR ENEMIES WORK EASY? IF MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS INDEED MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THEN I WOULD ADVISE A MEETING WITH HIM IN A SINCERE ATTEMPT TO CORRECT HIM SO THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT TO WHAT YOU CLAIM IS THE TRUTH. BEFORE MINISTER FARRAKHAN RE-INTRODUCED THE TEACHINGS,T.H.E.M WAS WRITTEN OUT OF OUR HISTORY,WHERE WERE THESE OTHER LEADERS THEN? FURTHER,THE N.O.I. WAS ALL BUT FORGOTTEN BY THE MASSES OF BLACK PEOPLE UNTIL MINISTER FARRAKHAN MADE IT RELEVANT AGAIN. I BELEIVE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER IS THEIR REMINDER IN OUR MIDST,I ALSO BELEIVE THAT ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE AND THEREFORE PRONE TO ERROR. WHEN OUR BROTHER MAKES A MISTAKE,WHY DEAL MORE HARSHLY WITH HIS MISTAKES THAN WE DO OUR OWN? EVEN WHEN T.H.E.M WAS AMONG US THERE WERE BROTHERS WHO WANTED TO BE LEADER,THEY HAVE THE DESIRE BUT NOT THE ABILITY. MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS BEING ACCUSED OF THE SAME THING THAT JESUS WAS BEING ACCUSED OF. WE THANK ALLAH FOREVER FOR LEAVING US THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN,ALL PRAISES DUE TO ALLAH. I WILL LEAVE YOU AS I CAME,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM!
June 24, 2009 at 2:16 pm |
Where is te name of Master W.D.Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever ???
Oh, that’s right… you follow Minister Farrakhan, no wonder you didnt mention the name of Allah in person.
January 6, 2008 at 9:14 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum: Minister Eric
Very NICE ARTICLE above brother and CONGRATULATIONS on the SALAAM MAGAZINE.
AND TO BROGEORGEA YOU IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE PLANET EARTH LOUIS FARRAKHAN IS THE FBI AND CIA AND CARRY NEGRO’S LIKE YOURSELF BACK TO THE DEVIL HIMSELF WALLACE D. MR.LOUIS HAD ADMITED IT HIMSELF OF BEING A HYPOCRITE AND SAYING HIMSELF THAT HE NO LONGER BELIEVED IN MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD OR ELIJAH MUHAMMAD IN 1977 2 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF THE MESSENGER. ELIJAH MUHAMMAD HAD SHARED WITH US IN MESSAGE TO THE BLACKMAN THAT NO ONE LIKE’S A HYPOCRITE RATHER IN BUSINESS,FRIENDSHIP OR REGLION.
January 8, 2008 at 1:58 pm |
JABARI SHABAZZ Says:
As Salaam Alaikum: Minister Eric
Very NICE ARTICLE above brother and CONGRATULATIONS on the SALAAM MAGAZINE.
AND TO BROGEORGEA YOU IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THE PLANET EARTH LOUIS FARRAKHAN IS THE FBI AND CIA AND CARRY NEGRO’S LIKE YOURSELF BACK TO THE DEVIL HIMSELF WALLACE D. MR.LOUIS HAD ADMITED IT HIMSELF OF BEING A HYPOCRITE AND SAYING HIMSELF THAT HE NO LONGER BELIEVED IN MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD OR ELIJAH MUHAMMAD IN 1977 2 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF THE MESSENGER. ELIJAH MUHAMMAD HAD SHARED WITH US IN MESSAGE TO THE BLACKMAN THAT NO ONE LIKE’S A HYPOCRITE RATHER IN BUSINESS,FRIENDSHIP OR REGLION.
Wa Alaikum Salaam
Thanx. All Praise Is Due To Allah For The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Good to hear from you. Give the greetings to your wife and the believers and I love to see you Black Boot Stomp the followers of the false Prophets such as Louis Farrakhan.
June 25, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
TO noitemple #15:
You state above that Minister Farakhan is a FALSE PROPHET. My question is, why are you following him instead of The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad ??? You point out Farrakhan’s HYPOCRISY, you point out his false teachings, and you point out that he is a “false prophet.” Yet, there seems to be some reason why you will not break away from him. There is some inexplicable reason why you remain with him. If you remain with him you have to support him, and his teachings… unless someone has a goal to take his position and call themself “The New Leader.” If you are going to continue to SPEAK THE TRUTH about him, you have to set a TRUTHFUL EXAMPLE for others to follow. You have to set such an example if you TRULY want UNITY, because a house divided against itself cannot stand. How are we going to reach the people with a program of UNITY when there is no Unity amongst The Nation, being divided between The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad and Minister Farrakhan ??? We cant Unite the lost-founds when we are not United amongst ourselves. How then, can you in all TRUTH allow a FALSE PROPHET to perpetuate the disunity of The Nation, unless you yourselves are false ??? This cannot continue if you are indeed TRUTHFUL.
January 8, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
BIG BRO.AMIR1 SAYS:
INT THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THER IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. I GREET YOU ALL IN THE THE GREETING WORDS OF PEACE,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY THAT,IF ANY OF US CLAIM TO BE FOLLOWERS OF T.H.E.M THEN WHY ARE WE CARRYING ON IN A MANNER THAT MAKES OUR ENEMIES WORK EASY? IF MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS INDEED MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THEN I WOULD ADVISE A MEETING WITH HIM IN A SINCERE ATTEMPT TO CORRECT HIM SO THAT HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT TO WHAT YOU CLAIM IS THE TRUTH. BEFORE MINISTER FARRAKHAN RE-INTRODUCED THE TEACHINGS,T.H.E.M WAS WRITTEN OUT OF OUR HISTORY,WHERE WERE THESE OTHER LEADERS THEN? FURTHER,THE N.O.I. WAS ALL BUT FORGOTTEN BY THE MASSES OF BLACK PEOPLE UNTIL MINISTER FARRAKHAN MADE IT RELEVANT AGAIN. I BELEIVE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER IS THEIR REMINDER IN OUR MIDST,I ALSO BELEIVE THAT ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE AND THEREFORE PRONE TO ERROR. WHEN OUR BROTHER MAKES A MISTAKE,WHY DEAL MORE HARSHLY WITH HIS MISTAKES THAN WE DO OUR OWN? EVEN WHEN T.H.E.M WAS AMONG US THERE WERE BROTHERS WHO WANTED TO BE LEADER,THEY HAVE THE DESIRE BUT NOT THE ABILITY. MINISTER FARRAKHAN IS BEING ACCUSED OF THE SAME THING THAT JESUS WAS BEING ACCUSED OF. WE THANK ALLAH FOREVER FOR LEAVING US THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN,ALL PRAISES DUE TO ALLAH. I WILL LEAVE YOU AS I CAME,AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM!
Wa Alaikum Salaam
I wish you Farrakhan worshippers would use those brains Allah blessed you to have. Just what is the enemies work? Didn’t Wallace D. Muhammad make that work easier than Eric Muhammad? Didn’t Louis Farrakhan help him more than any other Minister to do so? Hasn’t your leader taught you that “as the nation goes… so goes black people?” The enemies work was to destroy “The Nation of Islam.” By doing so, he would therefore destroy Black people. Wallace destroyed The Nation. Farrakhan was his top representative in doing so. Wallace has not changed. Farrakhan has embraced him again. He announced in 2000 they are Jewnited again. Looks like your man is making the enemies work a hell of a lot more “easy” than we are! Duuuhhh!!!
What makes you brothers/sisters think a meeting with Farrakhan is so possible? His ego is way to big for such a thing. He has not requested a meeting with any of us. When a meeting was requested with him by Khallid, he strung him along for damned near three years playing nigguh games with the man! He did the same thing to Keith Muhammad years before! We watched this take place bruh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aint nobody got time for that crap! And besides… many before us have already tried that before us and he was too arrogant to be corrected!
Before Farrakhan The Messenger was written out of history? Was this done with no writer? Hmmmmmmmmm? Who wrote him out of history? THE SAME GOD DAMNED NIGGUH you say wrote him back in!!! Duuuhhh!!!!! God… you are stupid!!!!!
Now you’ll have to just excuse my savagry, but you nigguhs with Farrakhan make me sick!!! You so stuck up that bastard’s azz it’s pathetic!!! You think the sun rises and sets on that nigguh! Farrakhan didn’t bring back a damned thing! We know the Ministers of several cities who were teaching The Messenger’s teaching in their cities and even having Saviour’s days while Farrakhan was licking Wallace D. Muhammad’s boots as Abdul Halim Farrakhan! Many such Ministers became his Ministers in those cities, thinking they were simply uniting with him. Once they realized they were really Jewniting with him, they bucked and stepped off. Farrakhan aint brought no Nation back FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That nigguh held The Nation back!!!!! He did so by using his popularity and charisma to keep the people from joining up with The Messenger’s true followers in every major city in the country! He’s been a spoiler!!! If Farrakhan had kept his Black azz with Wallace, these other Ministers would have been much more easily able to grow in the cities they are in! Black people are stupid as hell man!!! The lessons say so! We’re easily led in the wrong direction, but HARD TO LEAD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!! We want big crowds and damned charisma! So we go with Farrakhan’s flunkies instead of The Messenger’s Ministers. Then we get funked thehell over in Farrakhan’s fake azz nation and become sour on The Nation all together and go back to church or the streets!!! Save that damned bullisht about Farrakhan bringing back The Nation for somebody that don’t know no better bruh… I aint the one!!! The Messenger said nobody was coming after him but God and here come you nigguhs with some damned “reminder.” Aint no reminder!!! The Messenger said nobody but God… God Damnit!!!
We are only as hard on him as The Messenger teaches us to be in Message To The Black Man in the chapter on hypocrites.
The Messenger is still the leader. We aint trying to be no leader. So if we aint got leader ability, so the hell what! We aint supposed to have it! We don’t even need it! The Messenger has it and he’s the leader. Duuuhhhh!!!!!
Minister Farrakhan is being accused of what he has been proven guilty of! Hypocrisy!!! Allah aint left that nigguh nothin but a damned hypocrite!!! The messenger said Allah wouldn’t leave us nobody else Dumbell!!! So where the hell you get this bullisht about him leaving Farrakhan for us? Huh!!! I’ll tell you where you got it! You got it from the no good bastard whom you serve as you should serve only Allah through his Messenger… that’s who!!!
Now get the hell out my face… and stay out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 23, 2009 at 2:40 pm |
WOW!!! Brother Eric that was one hell of a response. you are right. it hurts to see that our people are so sound asleep. I applaud your ability to try to dignify such ignorance with even a response. but thats what the messenger had to do. a plain warner. follow not a multitude into sin.
January 9, 2008 at 10:58 am |
You are the one with beef towards the MINISTER, so, it is on YOU to set up a meeting. Once again, How has your foolishness helped BLACK people. You dont remotely represent the MESSENGER in any capacity. “DUHHHHH” combined with the language that you used with the above statement simply makes you an obvious phoney. DR KHALLID had “WORKS”. Dont attempt to ride his dick to respect that you havent earned.
Neither YOU nor your girlfriend Jabari Shabbaz have any credibility and that which you seemed to have before this is blown. Only a certified idiot and stooge would follow someone weak and stupid as you.
Oh, yeah, we can all remember when the MESSENGER instructed his ministers to use the phrase “DUUHHHHH”.
Youre too dumb to be an agent.
January 9, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! AS A SELF PROCLAIMED MINISTER OF THEM I AM SURPRISED AT YOUR DEMEANOR TOWARD THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU YOURSELF ACCUSED OF BEING DECEIVED. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU WERE DISCIPLINED BY MINISTER FARRAKHAN FOR YOUR MISCONDUCT,I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT YOU INVITED BROTHER KHALLID TO YOUR MOSQUE AFTER THE MINISTER FORBADE IT. THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO AN NOI MINISTER INVITING MALCOLM TO THE MOSQUE AFTER THEM FORBADE IT. YOU ARE BITTER BECAUSE THE MINISTER SAW YOU FOR THE HYPOCRITE THAT YOU ARE! YOU ONLY DISACSSOCIATED YOURSELF FROM THE “REAL” NOI BECAUSE THEY DISASSOCIATED THEMSELVES FROM YOU. YOU ACT LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED! DUUUH? ISN’T THAT VALLEY GIRL SLANG? BROTHER YOU ARE ACTUALLY INVITING “YOUR” PEOPLE, THE MESSENGERS PEOPLE TO A FIGHT? AGAIN “YOU” STATE THAT THE POSTERS ON THIS SIGHT ARE IGNORANT AND BEING DECEIVED. IT IS YOUR DUTY AS THE CIVILIZED THE SAVE THE UNCIVILIZED! I DID NOT KNOW THAT THEM TAUGHT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. IF I HAD EVER VISITED YOUR MOSQUE AND CAME UNDER YOUR TUTELAGE,I WOULD NOT BE A MEMBER AFTER READING YOUR IGNORANCE RESPONSES TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE TAUGHT,BUT FOR YOUR IDIOTIC DISPLAYS. THE MINISTER PROBABLY DID REFUSE TO MEET WITH YOU,AND JUST FROM OBSERVATION I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. WHAT’S FUNNY TO ME IS NONE OF THE POSTS THAT I’VE READ HAVE THREATENED YOU WITH BODILY HARM,YET YOU ARE ISSUING OUT THREATS. YOU COME OFF TO ME LIKE THE NOI FEATURED ON AMERICAN GANGSTER. YOU REPRESENT THE IGNORANT MASSES WHO CAN NOT INTELLEGENTLY DEFEND HIS/HER POSITION. THE CRACKER WOULD INVITE YOU ON HIS SHOW AND THOROUGHLY DISPATCH YOU,NOT TO MENTION YOUR FOLLOWERS. AS I TOLD YOU IN MY LAST POST BROTHER, ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE. YOU ACCUSE ANY ONE WHO DEFENDS THE HONORABLE MINISTER OF WORSHIPPING HIM. ARE YOU INSANE? ALLAH IS GOD AND BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO OTHER GOD,BUT WHO REPRESENTS THIS TRUTH? ERIC? HATE IT OR LOVE IT FARRAKHAN IS THEM’S NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE. BY THE WAY ERIC, WALLACE IS NOT THEM’S ONLY SON,SPEAK ON THAT ERIC! I PRAY THAT ALLAH SEES FIT TO SAVE YOU BROTHER ERIC.
June 27, 2009 at 12:20 pm |
Wonder why Minister Eric was disciplined for misconduct and that swine eating Ben Chavis gets away with molesting sisters ??? Hmmmm.
Your statement above, in part, is: HATE IT OR LOVE IT FARRAKHAN IS THEM’s NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE.
That statement is interesting, because Farrakhan and Jibril Muhammad claim that HE LIVES, that he has DEPARTED, that he is SOMEWHERE IN HIDING, waiting to return. It has even been said that he is on the mother plane. In any event, he is not here, so Farrakhan is sitting in his place as his National Representative.
When you become Muslim, the white man can no longer tell you anything about religion that you are going to accept as truth, or believe. The only one who can DECEIVE you is one saying As-Salaam-Alaikum, just like you. The popes claim to sit in the place of Christ until Christ returns, just like Farrakhan claims to sit in place of The Messenger until The Messenger returns. Farrakhan is essentially telling the same lie about himself (sitting in place of as National Representative) that the popes of the Catholic Church have been telling about themselves for approximately 1,973 years. The popes are waiting on Jesus Christ. Farrakhan is waiting on
an Exalted Christ. The Hon. Elijah Muhammad taught us that “there was a tree that grew in the midst of te Garden, its fruit being as the heads of devils.”
If you cannot evaluate this and fully comprehend who Louis Farrakhan is, then you are going to be a victim of St. Matt. 24:27.
January 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm |
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALL AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! BRO. ERIC YOU HAVE THIS INTENSE HATRED OF ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE HONORABLE MINISTER,HOW DO YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT T.H.E.M.? EVEN YOU MADE A VALID POINT ONE WOULD MISS IT DO TO YOUR GLARING IGNORANCE! BLACK PEOPLE WOULD INDEED BE STUPID IF WE FOUND ANY CREDIBILITY IN YOUR EMPTY WORDS. I REALLY FIND NO VALUE IN FUTURE DIALOGUE WITH YOU. IT IS YOU WHO IS TOO ARROGANT TO BE CORRECTED. I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU DEMONSTRATE THE LOVE FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER HAS. BROTHER IF YOU ARE NOT A FOOL THEN YOU ARE THE CLOSEST THING TO IT! I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD CHRISTIAN MINISTERS DISPLAY THE LEVEL OF IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY THAT YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTERS DISPLAY. YOU ARE A MISERABLE MAN AND MORE LIKE YAKUB THAN THOSE YOU ACCUSE,ARE YOU A DIRECT DESCENDANT? IF THE ISSUE WERE NOT SO SERIOUS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE A COMEDIAN! I KNOW OF NO ONE WHO HAS EVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU. MINISTER FARRAKHAN PROBABLY DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU EXIST. AS FAR AS THAT PHYSICAL STUFF THAT YOU SPEAK OF,TAKE IT TO BROTHER SUPREME. YOUR LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN! YOU SOUND MORE LIKE A HOMO-THUG DOING A WEAK IMITATION OF AN NOI MINISTER. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A COURSE A ACTION FOR BLACK PEOPLE? DUDE YOU ARE GARBAGE! YOU WILL NEVER BE RESPECTED AS A “REAL” MINISTER OF T.H.E.M. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 MEMBERS IN YOUR MOSQUE? HOW MUCH IS YOUR FAITH BASED INITIATIVE GRANT BROTHER? FROM YOUR TEACHINGS (NOT T.H.E.M) WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WAR WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE NOI BEFORE DEALING WITH THE REAL DEVIL. YOU ARE THE BLACK (WE ASSUME) BENEDICT ARNOLD. THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IS FARRAKHAN,NOTHING POSITIVE HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT HIM BY YOU NOR HAVE YOU SAID ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CLAIM TO REPRESENT,THIS IS THE REASON THAT ALL OF THE RESPONSES TO HAVE BEEN AS THEY HAVE BEEN. YOU ARE A FRAUD! YOUR WIFE IS PROBABLY SOME WHITE TRAILER TRASH. THIS WILL BE MY LAST RESPONSE TO YOUR SUPER SILLY ASS,I REFUSE TO DIGNIFY THIS GARBAGE SITE WITH ANOTHER RESPONSE.
January 9, 2008 at 6:46 pm |
Megaspank1 says:
You are the one with beef towards the MINISTER, so, it is on YOU to set up a meeting. Once again, How has your foolishness helped BLACK people. You dont remotely represent the MESSENGER in any capacity. “DUHHHHH” combined with the language that you used with the above statement simply makes you an obvious phoney. DR KHALLID had “WORKS”. Dont attempt to ride his dick to respect that you havent earned.
Neither YOU nor your girlfriend Jabari Shabbaz have any credibility and that which you seemed to have before this is blown. Only a certified idiot and stooge would follow someone weak and stupid as you.
Oh, yeah, we can all remember when the MESSENGER instructed his ministers to use the phrase “DUUHHHHH”.
Youre too dumb to be an agent.
As Salaam Alaikum
It is not on us to set a meeting with Farrakhan. The Messenger didn’t teach us to ask hypocrites for meetings with them. He said be firm with them and strive hard AGAINST them. We are doing this.
You have not answered my question as to what lies have been told in the above article. You come here and speak of Khallid’s “Dick” and want to talk to me about language and credibility?
Tell us what Khallid’s “works” were. Tell us what “works” you insinuate we do not have. Tell us what respect we have not earned. What do you actually know of our works or the respect we have or have not earned?
Thank you for admitting we are not agents, but please make up your mind about our motives. Get your thoughts together and then come back at us.
January 9, 2008 at 7:06 pm |
BIGBRO.AMIR1 Says:
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER AND THE EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! AS A SELF PROCLAIMED MINISTER OF THEM I AM SURPRISED AT YOUR DEMEANOR TOWARD THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU YOURSELF ACCUSED OF BEING DECEIVED. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU WERE DISCIPLINED BY MINISTER FARRAKHAN FOR YOUR MISCONDUCT,I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT YOU INVITED BROTHER KHALLID TO YOUR MOSQUE AFTER THE MINISTER FORBADE IT. THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO AN NOI MINISTER INVITING MALCOLM TO THE MOSQUE AFTER THEM FORBADE IT. YOU ARE BITTER BECAUSE THE MINISTER SAW YOU FOR THE HYPOCRITE THAT YOU ARE! YOU ONLY DISACSSOCIATED YOURSELF FROM THE “REAL” NOI BECAUSE THEY DISASSOCIATED THEMSELVES FROM YOU. YOU ACT LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED! DUUUH? ISN’T THAT VALLEY GIRL SLANG? BROTHER YOU ARE ACTUALLY INVITING “YOUR” PEOPLE, THE MESSENGERS PEOPLE TO A FIGHT? AGAIN “YOU” STATE THAT THE POSTERS ON THIS SIGHT ARE IGNORANT AND BEING DECEIVED. IT IS YOUR DUTY AS THE CIVILIZED THE SAVE THE UNCIVILIZED! I DID NOT KNOW THAT THEM TAUGHT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. IF I HAD EVER VISITED YOUR MOSQUE AND CAME UNDER YOUR TUTELAGE,I WOULD NOT BE A MEMBER AFTER READING YOUR IGNORANCE RESPONSES TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD WHO YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE TAUGHT,BUT FOR YOUR IDIOTIC DISPLAYS. THE MINISTER PROBABLY DID REFUSE TO MEET WITH YOU,AND JUST FROM OBSERVATION I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. WHAT’S FUNNY TO ME IS NONE OF THE POSTS THAT I’VE READ HAVE THREATENED YOU WITH BODILY HARM,YET YOU ARE ISSUING OUT THREATS. YOU COME OFF TO ME LIKE THE NOI FEATURED ON AMERICAN GANGSTER. YOU REPRESENT THE IGNORANT MASSES WHO CAN NOT INTELLEGENTLY DEFEND HIS/HER POSITION. THE CRACKER WOULD INVITE YOU ON HIS SHOW AND THOROUGHLY DISPATCH YOU,NOT TO MENTION YOUR FOLLOWERS. AS I TOLD YOU IN MY LAST POST BROTHER, ALL MEN ARE FALLABLE. YOU ACCUSE ANY ONE WHO DEFENDS THE HONORABLE MINISTER OF WORSHIPPING HIM. ARE YOU INSANE? ALLAH IS GOD AND BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO OTHER GOD,BUT WHO REPRESENTS THIS TRUTH? ERIC? HATE IT OR LOVE IT FARRAKHAN IS THEM’S NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE. BY THE WAY ERIC, WALLACE IS NOT THEM’S ONLY SON,SPEAK ON THAT ERIC! I PRAY THAT ALLAH SEES FIT TO SAVE YOU BROTHER ERIC.
As Salaam Alaikum
Khallid did nothing close to Farrakhan what Malcolm did to The Messenger. That’s a very unjust comparison. Therefore there was no misconduct for Farrakhan to correct on our part. We were right to disobey him. The law was on our side and not his. Khallid was not in bad standing at the time. We had every right to invite him.
Our attitude towards the people of God is fine. It’s our attitude towards hypocrites and those who follow them that is not.
Chanel 2 investigative reporter Mark Winnie offered to do an interview with Eric Muhammad and then punked out at the last minute. He or someone over him obviously doubts I’d be dispatched by them as you say.
Farrakhan is a hypocrite. Period. Deal with it.
January 9, 2008 at 7:11 pm |
BIGBRO.AMIR1 Says:
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH,THE BENEFICENT,THE MERCIFUL. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALL AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND EXALTED CHRIST. AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM! BRO. ERIC YOU HAVE THIS INTENSE HATRED OF ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE HONORABLE MINISTER,HOW DO YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT T.H.E.M.? EVEN YOU MADE A VALID POINT ONE WOULD MISS IT DO TO YOUR GLARING IGNORANCE! BLACK PEOPLE WOULD INDEED BE STUPID IF WE FOUND ANY CREDIBILITY IN YOUR EMPTY WORDS. I REALLY FIND NO VALUE IN FUTURE DIALOGUE WITH YOU. IT IS YOU WHO IS TOO ARROGANT TO BE CORRECTED. I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU DEMONSTRATE THE LOVE FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT THE HONORABLE MINISTER HAS. BROTHER IF YOU ARE NOT A FOOL THEN YOU ARE THE CLOSEST THING TO IT! I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD CHRISTIAN MINISTERS DISPLAY THE LEVEL OF IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY THAT YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTERS DISPLAY. YOU ARE A MISERABLE MAN AND MORE LIKE YAKUB THAN THOSE YOU ACCUSE,ARE YOU A DIRECT DESCENDANT? IF THE ISSUE WERE NOT SO SERIOUS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE A COMEDIAN! I KNOW OF NO ONE WHO HAS EVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU. MINISTER FARRAKHAN PROBABLY DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU EXIST. AS FAR AS THAT PHYSICAL STUFF THAT YOU SPEAK OF,TAKE IT TO BROTHER SUPREME. YOUR LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN! YOU SOUND MORE LIKE A HOMO-THUG DOING A WEAK IMITATION OF AN NOI MINISTER. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A COURSE A ACTION FOR BLACK PEOPLE? DUDE YOU ARE GARBAGE! YOU WILL NEVER BE RESPECTED AS A “REAL” MINISTER OF T.H.E.M. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 MEMBERS IN YOUR MOSQUE? HOW MUCH IS YOUR FAITH BASED INITIATIVE GRANT BROTHER? FROM YOUR TEACHINGS (NOT T.H.E.M) WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WAR WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE NOI BEFORE DEALING WITH THE REAL DEVIL. YOU ARE THE BLACK (WE ASSUME) BENEDICT ARNOLD. THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IS FARRAKHAN,NOTHING POSITIVE HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT HIM BY YOU NOR HAVE YOU SAID ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CLAIM TO REPRESENT,THIS IS THE REASON THAT ALL OF THE RESPONSES TO HAVE BEEN AS THEY HAVE BEEN. YOU ARE A FRAUD! YOUR WIFE IS PROBABLY SOME WHITE TRAILER TRASH. THIS WILL BE MY LAST RESPONSE TO YOUR SUPER SILLY ASS,I REFUSE TO DIGNIFY THIS GARBAGE SITE WITH ANOTHER RESPONSE.
As Salaam Alaikum
This is nothing but pure emotionalism which you will eventually get over ans see the truth we are presenting.
As Salaam Alaikum
June 24, 2009 at 2:39 pm |
You infer that The Hon Elijah Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is this Exalted Christ. Do you have scriptural proof ??? The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah said in Message To The Blackman that his mission was to give life to the spiritually dead, which made him a teacher of moral reform. He never said he would execute the judgment, which is the mission of Christ. SEE, St John 5:22. In Theology of Time THEM (PBUH) said “I cant do it.”
January 14, 2008 at 10:08 am |
As Salaam Alaikum:Megaspank1 the way you talk don’t sound like a follower of T.H.E.M.,However you sound like YOU ARE GAY like most of LOUIS follower’s do. What work’s have you done yourself? YOU have done nothing but been a follower of some HYPOCRITE and selling those nothing FINAL CALLS and NASTY BEAN PIES. So SHUT UP IDIOT AND GO PICK UP A BOOK.
March 11, 2008 at 6:36 pm |
Keep talkin Black to em Brotha!
March 11, 2008 at 6:59 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum sister Keisha
Yes Maam! Much appreciation!
April 3, 2008 at 5:48 pm |
Agent Eric.
April 12, 2008 at 1:07 am |
ok people i’ve heard enough!!!
first of all you are a bunch of deviants following a bigger deviant please do your research all of you are in error as far as your teaching is concern i was in the noi for years as a child had an x dont you realize tha elijah muhammad turned over leadership of the then nation of islam to his son w.d. muhammad ? infact he made a speech to that effect he said in his speech ” I HAVE LEAD YOU TO ISLAM MY SON WILL LEAD YOU TO SALAT” EVEN YOUR MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN TOOK HIS SHAHADA( DECLARATION OF FAITH HE PRAYED THE SAME AS ALL MUSLIMS ( BY THE WAY YOU ARENT MUSLIM LOOK UP WHAT MAKES A MUSLIM IN THE QURAN OR IN THE SUNNA ) YOU CALL YOUR SELF MUSLIM BUT YOU ARE NO MORE THAN A BUNCH OF EXTREMELY LOST PEOPLE I PRAY THAT ONE DAY YOU WILL FIND RIGHT GUIDANCE ANYWAY I DIGRESS OLD LOUIE KNOWS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER BUT BECAUSE OF HIS NEED TO BE IN POWER TO BE INCHARGE HE LEFT TRUE ISLAM TURNED HIS BACK ON ALLAH(SWT) AND RECREATED ELIJAH POOLES ORGANIZATION PLEASE LOOK INTO YOUR HISTORY!! YOU WILL FIND AS MUCH AS YOU DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT THAT I AM CORRECT IN WHAT I SAY AND OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME OF YOU MENTAL SLAVES WHO WILL STILL HOLD ON TO THE LIES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT AND CONTINUE TO FOLLOW SCREWY LOEY DOWN INTO THE HELL FIRE I IN FACT BEG YOU TO RESEARCH THIS AND FIND OUT FOR YOUR SELF THE TRUTH BEHIND MR LOIUSWILSON LOUIS FARRAKHAN’S RISE TO POWER YOU’LL BE GALD THAT YOU DID PEACE
June 24, 2009 at 2:33 pm |
I guess you claim to have the right Islam. Who is that Muhammad (Ahmad) of The Children of Israel to come after Jesus @ Qur’an 61:6 ??? It isnt Muhamad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH), because he was an Arab of the Qur’ish tribe… an Arab. The real truth is with The most Honorable Silis Muhammad, because He stands on the teachings of The Hon. Elijah Muhammad (PBUH) 100%.
June 24, 2009 at 4:12 pm
You are still “SPOOKED-UP” in the false belief of a spirit god, and you call us DEVIANT ??? You’re just like a Christian negro believing in the god of his slave master. I will bet you did not know that the Arabs, who also worship a spirit god like the Christians, were capturing Blacks in East Africa and selling them to the Europeans. The Arabs were just as involved in in the destruction of your identity, language, culture, etc. and you want
to call them brother and sister. I think you need your head examined, sir.
April 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum,
I come to this forum in peace and only want to try to reason with those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Bro. Eric, I must say that although you want to label Min. Farrakhan as a hypocrite, you continue to use many of his teachings in your lectures and you even carefully chose your words based upon the teachings of Min. Farrakhan (such as the use of “departure” when referring to the absence of the Messenger). I have viewed some of your lectures on youtube.com and you go out of your way to discredit the Hon. Min Farrakhan while at the same time referring to those teachings which weren’t taught prior to 1975.
This is rather questionable behaviour for one who sees Min. Farrakhan as deviating from the teachings. Let me ask you one question…do you believe that The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was divinely guided by Allah (Who appeared in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad)? I don’t see how you can claim to believe in the Messenger when you strive so diligently to discredit the Minister. When the Messenger called Minister Farrakhan on stage during the ‘Theology of Time’ lectures, he gave the explicit instruction to ALL who followed him to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan. Do you believe that the Messenger of Allah spoke these words in error, as if he didn’t have the backing or guidance of Allah behind him?
As I stated in the beginning of my post, I am not here to further any divisions between those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, who is TRULY the EXATLED CHRIST. I just want to ask that those who reject the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan reconsider their position in light of what is known of the relationship of the Min. to the Messenger. We do KNOW for a fact that Min. Farrakhan was the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (a post he was NEVER relieved of)…we do know that the Messenger put the Minister in his seat in front of a multitude of witnesses (something he didn’t do to any of his other ministers)…we do know that the Messenger gave him and only him the name “Farrakhan”…we do know that the Messenger told him that he (Min. Farrakhan) was worth more to him than all the wealth in the Earth (something that Dr. Khallid Muhammad bore witness to)…we do know that the Messenger told him to wear a hat that had only a star on it because he (the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad) said that Min. Farrakhan was a star with no equal…we do know that in the same lecture that the Messenger told his followers to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan, he also said that THROUGH HIM HE WOULD GET ALL OF HIS PEOPLE. Do you believe that the Messenger of ALLAH, who met God face to face, and stated that he was guided by Allah every step of the way, would make such statements and demonstrations in error? If so, you outright deny the power of Allah and exhibit a rejection of not only Min. Farrakhan, but of the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (because, believe it or not, all of the above are encompassed within the Messenger’s teachings too).
June 26, 2009 at 2:13 pm |
IN THE NAME OF MASTER W. D. FARD MUHAMMAD, HIS IS THE NAME OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH, THE GREAT MAHDI, KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS, TO WHOM ALL PRAISES ARE DUE FOREVER; IN LOVING MEMORY OF THE LAST & GREATEST MESSENGER OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH, MOSES, WHO APPEARED IN THE PERSON OF THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD, (PEACE BE UPON HIM) OUR SPIRITUAL MOTHER, MARY OF THE BOOK, AND; IN THE NAME OF THE MOST HONORABLE SILIS MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET LIKE MOSES, CHRIST, SOLOMON & JOSHUA, THE SPIRITUAL SON OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH, HIS IS THE NAME OF THE SON OF MAN,THERE IS NO (GOD) ALLAH BESIDES THE HUMAN BEING MAN,
AS-SALAAM ALAIKUM
Dear Bro. foi_06:
When I first stood up, the thing that really attracted me to Islam was the fact that the minister said: “Dont take it as truth because we say its truth. Question the truth. Test the truth to see if it be truth or not.” These days, Minister Farrakhan doesnt want to answer any “tough” questions. So, are the Muslims supposed to look at his (Farrakhan’s) conduct and listen to his words and not question either if they dont seem consistent with the teachings of THEM (PBUH) ??? Are you telling us that we should all follow Minister Farrakhan in BLIND FAITH ??? Are you certain that THEM (PBUH) is this “exalted Christ???” The Messenger never said his mission was to execute the judgment, and he said in Theology of Time that he couldnt take us to the other side. “I cant do it,” THEM (PBUH) said in Theology.
Brother, how can I reconsider my position when Minister Farrakhan:
1. Teaches that WFM prayed to Allah;
2. Teaches that separation is a last resort;
3. Teaches that love trancends color;
4. Teaches that the devil is deceptive intelligence that rationalizes disobedience to God;
5. Teaches that we should fast with the Arabs on Ramadan, instead of in December:
6. Has instituted Jumah Prayer in the mosques;
7. Doesnt mention the name of WFM as God in Person;
8. Has registered his followers to vote and encouraged them to participate in the U.S. political system;
9. Has stated that we do not need the teachings of THEM (PBUH), and;
10. Has apologized to the imposter Jews for calling their religion a “gutter religion.” (If he spoke the truth because he knew he was standing firmly on TRUTH, what was there to apologize for ??? Jesus didnt apologize when he caled them the devil @ St.John 8:44.)
I think you should reconsider the reasons why you follow Minister Farrakhan, brother. A TRUE FOI-Man stands firmly on the teachings of THEM (PBUH). It is his duty to uphold that teaching and to preserve that teaching with his life. It is his duty to protect the memory of THEM (PBUH) with TRUTH and to advance th culture of the “New Islam” without regard for criticism by the Arabs, or anyone else.
Do you know what the name “Farrakhan” means, brother ??? If not, I think you should look into it. THEM (PBUH) told us what it meant in one of his books.
As-Salaam-Alaikum,
Your Brother In Islam,
Ameer Labeeb Hassan
April 23, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
CORRECTION: In the beginning of my last post, I meant to say those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan. Please excuse the mistake.
April 24, 2008 at 7:14 pm |
foi_06 Says:
As Salaam Alaikum,
I come to this forum in peace and only want to try to reason with those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Bro. Eric, I must say that although you want to label Min. Farrakhan as a hypocrite, you continue to use many of his teachings in your lectures and you even carefully chose your words based upon the teachings of Min. Farrakhan (such as the use of “departure” when referring to the absence of the Messenger). I have viewed some of your lectures on youtube.com and you go out of your way to discredit the Hon. Min Farrakhan while at the same time referring to those teachings which weren’t taught prior to 1975.
This is rather questionable behaviour for one who sees Min. Farrakhan as deviating from the teachings. Let me ask you one question…do you believe that The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was divinely guided by Allah (Who appeared in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad)? I don’t see how you can claim to believe in the Messenger when you strive so diligently to discredit the Minister. When the Messenger called Minister Farrakhan on stage during the ‘Theology of Time’ lectures, he gave the explicit instruction to ALL who followed him to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan. Do you believe that the Messenger of Allah spoke these words in error, as if he didn’t have the backing or guidance of Allah behind him?
As I stated in the beginning of my post, I am not here to further any divisions between those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, who is TRULY the EXATLED CHRIST. I just want to ask that those who reject the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan reconsider their position in light of what is known of the relationship of the Min. to the Messenger. We do KNOW for a fact that Min. Farrakhan was the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (a post he was NEVER relieved of)…we do know that the Messenger put the Minister in his seat in front of a multitude of witnesses (something he didn’t do to any of his other ministers)…we do know that the Messenger gave him and only him the name “Farrakhan”…we do know that the Messenger told him that he (Min. Farrakhan) was worth more to him than all the wealth in the Earth (something that Dr. Khallid Muhammad bore witness to)…we do know that the Messenger told him to wear a hat that had only a star on it because he (the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad) said that Min. Farrakhan was a star with no equal…we do know that in the same lecture that the Messenger told his followers to CONTINUE to hear Min. Farrakhan, he also said that THROUGH HIM HE WOULD GET ALL OF HIS PEOPLE. Do you believe that the Messenger of ALLAH, who met God face to face, and stated that he was guided by Allah every step of the way, would make such statements and demonstrations in error? If so, you outright deny the power of Allah and exhibit a rejection of not only Min. Farrakhan, but of the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (because, believe it or not, all of the above are encompassed within the Messenger’s teachings too).
CORRECTION: In the beginning of my last post, I meant to say those who claim to follow the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad OUTSIDE of the leadership of the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan. Please excuse the mistake.
ERIC MUHAMMAD SAYS:
Wa Alaikum Salaam Sir.
You who follow Minister Farrakhan are like children who continue to ask their parents for sweets, candy, or toys that their parents have told them over and over again they can not have. Although the parent has explained many times why they can’t have them, the child will continuously ask in that whiny voice…… “whyyyyyyyyy”…………………..? It’s pesty to the point of pathetic.
Minister Farrakhan labeled himself a hypocrite for teaching what he is now teaching 30 years ago. I’m not making this up. He said it. Deal with it. The Messenger said he wouldn’t give two cents for the Orthodox Islamic scholarship which Minister Farrakhan is now very heavily flirting with.
I teach The Messenger’s teachings. If Minister Farrakhan has any teachings, that proves he does not teach The Messenger’s teachings. You can’t have it both ways. Minister Farrakhan’s teaching is “based on” The Messenger’s teachings, but not “the same as” The Messenger’s teachings. That’s what the above article states and that’s what you just unwhittingly admitted by refering to what he teaches as “his teachings.”
The belief in The Messenger still being alive is absolutely not “Farrakhan’s teaching.” Farrakhan got it from The Messenger’s teaching. There are followers of The Messenger who never believed The Messenger was dead long before Bernard Cushmere (Jabril Muhammad) brought this to Farrakhan. Since it was “Jabril” who convinced Farrakhan of this, why the hell do you call it Farrakhan’s teaching instead of “Jabril’s” teaching? Duuuuuhhhhh!!! Why not call it by the names of the many followers of The Messenger who believed it without any teaching from Farrakhan or “Jabril?” Better yet……………. why not call it The Messenger’s teaching, since that’s what it really is?
If you’ve viewed my lectures on youtube, you’ve been given the rebuttals to the pesty, never ending stupidity you just came at me with. Damn brother! How many times are you going to keep coming with the same tired, old argument that has been successfully defeated over and over again? Minister Farrakhan is more than a sufficient discredit to himself for me not to have to “go out of my way” to discredit him. My job absolutely demands I discredit Minister Farrakhan just like his was to discredit Malcolm when Malcolm began teaching what Farrakhan is now teaching. What you and the faggot so-called Ministers of The Messenger don’t understand is to not discredit Farrakhan requires going out of ones way! The reason other Ministers don’t teach as I teach is because they’re too weak, too punk, and too God Damned sukkka to do so!!! They’ll explain it some other way, but the real reason is they just aint got the backbone to do it. They’re so scared they won’t even come around me when I do it. The Richmond Temples wouldn’t even come out and support the meeting we had Saturday! Not one member of one of their Temples showed up! They’ll come up with some reason that sounds good I’m sure, but the real reasons are nothing but cowardice and jealousy. They were angry/jealous I was invited to speak in their city and scared all hell might break loose at the meeting.
Spare me the “Messenger said blah blah blah about Farrakhan” crap. I aint interested! The Saviour himself said even greater things about Wallace D. Muhammad. The Saviour himself, it is taught, named Wallace D. Muhammad. The Saviour himself “prophesied” Wallace D. Muhammad would “help him in his mission.” Why the hell do you think Farrakhan’s clear and absolute superiority over Wallace D. Muhammad has never stopped the overwhelming majority of The Mesenger’s followers from remaining followers of Wallace D. Muhammad? That spoken by The Saviour about Wallace punks anything said by The Messenger about Farrakhan. You see how well Wallace worked out don’t you? Duuuuhhhhh!!!
The Messenger told thousands at the 369th st. armory in 1961 he didn’t teach Malcolm to speak, that it is Malcolm who taught him how to speak, and compared Malcolm’s relationship to him with Aaron’s to Moses!!! Should we follow Malclom now????? Duuuuuuhhhhh!!!!! Damn brother!!!!! I swear to you I love you as a Muslim and my brother, but you gittin on my Got Damn nerves!!!!! Git yo head out that nigguh’s azz and learn The Messenger!!!!! I did it and so can you!!!!!
I apologize for my roughness, but I mean what I say!!!!!
April 28, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
To Agent Eric,
I will leave off Muhammad because you are not “worthy of praise”.
I read something about you on the Black Panther website in regard to the late Dr. Khalid Muhammad. Is that true of what you did to his dead body?
I can email you the website.
Also, If all of this is true of Minister Farrakhan, why were you in The NOI for 13 years before you left?
Did it take you 13 long years to come to your conclusions about THE MINISTER?
Finally, you are so lost Agent Eric. No one will ever take you serious. You sound like a “little sissy” in your lectures. I wish that I could meet you face-to-face for an intellectual debate or for a physical confrontation.
I really want to just SLAP THE HELL out of your ignorant ASS!! Farrakhan is teaching and uplifting THE Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s name throughout the world. And here comes your little sissy ass, with 5 people listening to your garbage.
It’s dumb niggas like you that impedes The Messengers progress!!
April 28, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
Agent Eric,
You and others always say that “The Minister” was “One” of The Messengers best Ministers, not “The Best”.
Well where are all the others?
The Messenger had 250 Ministers!!
In your opinion, (since you know all the history). Name the Top 20 Ministers (past or present) of The Messengers Ministers.
And what progress have they made since 1975 in Building A Nation of Muslims?
We can see what our beloved Minister (Farrakhan) has produced.
I will be waiting for you to respond!!
April 28, 2008 at 3:43 pm |
Eric is an Agent, being paid as an Agent:
Do not Trust this man!! His goal is to cause mischief!!
Eric Muhammad was kicked out of The Nation.
Place this site into your browser.
http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3939
When the Ministers (Dr.Khalid) body comes in Agent Akhee, Eric Muhammad with Barry get to the body first when it comes out of the cargo deck. Eric Muhammad then opens up the casket and opens Dr. Muhammad’s shirt open and begins feeling on Khallid Muhammad’s chest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbAD4MfwR5g
Place this “What is Drill?” in your You Tube browser.
THE TRUE MOSQUE #15
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
April 29, 2008 at 11:40 pm |
AMuhammad Says:
April 28, 2008 at 3:43 pm edit
Eric is an Agent, being paid as an Agent:
Do not Trust this man!! His goal is to cause mischief!!
Eric Muhammad was kicked out of The Nation.
Place this site into your browser.
http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3939
When the Ministers (Dr.Khalid) body comes in Agent Akhee, Eric Muhammad with Barry get to the body first when it comes out of the cargo deck. Eric Muhammad then opens up the casket and opens Dr. Muhammad’s shirt open and begins feeling on Khallid Muhammad’s chest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbAD4MfwR5g
Place this “What is Drill?” in your You Tube browser.
THE TRUE MOSQUE #15
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
Nice try, but wrong Eric. That’s another Eric you’re talking about. Are you so stupid you can’t read? That Eric is from Jew York idiot! The bio you admit to have read tells you this Eric is from Jew Jersey. Do your homework jerk!!!
April 29, 2008 at 11:46 pm |
Agent Eric,
You and others always say that “The Minister” was “One” of The Messengers best Ministers, not “The Best”.
Well where are all the others?
The Messenger had 250 Ministers!!
In your opinion, (since you know all the history). Name the Top 20 Ministers (past or present) of The Messengers Ministers.
And what progress have they made since 1975 in Building A Nation of Muslims?
We can see what our beloved Minister (Farrakhan) has produced.
I will be waiting for you to respond!!
The Messenger said your leader was only “one” of his strongest national preachers. Why try to put it on someone else? The Messenger said it in that quote you flunkies love to push so much! I don’t give a damn about that one or any other top ones! I have no opinion of them. Their work or lack thereof speaks for itself. Your leaders work also speaks for itself and that’s what is written of in the above article! Duuuuhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
April 30, 2008 at 12:02 am |
AMuhammad Says:
April 28, 2008 at 2:56 pm edit
To Agent Eric,
I will leave off Muhammad because you are not “worthy of praise”.
I read something about you on the Black Panther website in regard to the late Dr. Khalid Muhammad. Is that true of what you did to his dead body?
I can email you the website.
Also, If all of this is true of Minister Farrakhan, why were you in The NOI for 13 years before you left?
Did it take you 13 long years to come to your conclusions about THE MINISTER?
Finally, you are so lost Agent Eric. No one will ever take you serious. You sound like a “little sissy” in your lectures. I wish that I could meet you face-to-face for an intellectual debate or for a physical confrontation.
I really want to just SLAP THE HELL out of your ignorant ASS!! Farrakhan is teaching and uplifting THE Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s name throughout the world. And here comes your little sissy ass, with 5 people listening to your garbage.
It’s dumb niggas like you that impedes The Messengers progress!!
Learn to read and do your homework idiot! That’s Eric Ture Muhammad from Jew York. Our Eric is Eric Muhammad from Jew Jersey. You think only one Eric Muhammad had dealings with Khallid?
Do your homework idiot. Eric Muhammad spent most of those 13 years as an outcast in your organization! Why didn’t Khallid ever leave? It was your organization that left him and not the other way around. Had it been up to him, he’d have died in your organization. It is belief that everybody’s at fault for the evils of your organization but the Got Damn nigguh at the head of it that keeps the few members you still have from jettin!!! When they realize Farrakhan’s the problem and certainly not the solution, they’ll be leaving too!
If you really wish to meet any of us, what’s stopping you? We’ve had several very public meetings and intend to have sveral more. You’ve already wasted several opportunities. Will you waste several more? If you’re really feeling so slappy, come git yo slap on nigguh! You betta pack a Got Damned bag though nigguh cuz it’s gone be a long day!!!
Farrakhan has been pissin and crappin all over The Messenger’s name around the world and that would be at least “6″ people listening to our meetings with your idiot azz included now wouldn’t it? Duuuuhhhhh!!!!!
May 6, 2008 at 7:02 pm |
I will check back with you idiots in ONE year to see how much progress you have made in Building a Nation!!
It should not be that hard to go from 6 members to atleast 10 by then.
Agent Eric’s heart is filled with hatred and envy for just about everybody, not counting the 6 people that listen to him. He will NEVER..EVER be able to connect with people with a heart filled with bitterness and envy.
Dumb ass/ignorant ass/hating ass/Dr. Khalid Wannabe!!
“You will know the True Believers, for they are the successful ones”.
Good Luck Agent Eric.
May 6, 2008 at 7:16 pm |
You still never answered the question Agent Eric.
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
Show us all your FRUIT, where is your work?…Temple #15. It will be shut down in 1 year,
June 22, 2009 at 11:28 am |
I dont know why you call Bro. Minister Eric Muhammad an agent. Because he is telling a truth that you do not want to hear ??? Let me tell you something AMuhammad, the FOI under Farrakhan alot of times isnt even clean shaven. The FOI under Farrakhan doesnt even have a supreme lieutenant. The Nation used to have such an officer. But if you can really tell a tree by the fruit it bears, you must be deaf, dumb, and blind brother, not to hear, speak or see the truth of what Minister Farrakhan’s work actually is.
June 22, 2009 at 11:34 am
You criticize Minister Eric for speaking the truth. Ignore him if you choose. You will soon be wearing a kufi cap, talking about Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) is the seal of the prophets; you’ll be saying Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever was a trickster; that The Hon.Elijah Muhammad, (PBUH) was a deceiver; and that you are not of the tribe Shabazz, but a Bilalian.
May 6, 2008 at 9:56 pm |
AMUHAMMAD says:
I will check back with you idiots in ONE year to see how much progress you have made in Building a Nation!!
It should not be that hard to go from 6 members to atleast 10 by then.
Agent Eric’s heart is filled with hatred and envy for just about everybody, not counting the 6 people that listen to him. He will NEVER..EVER be able to connect with people with a heart filled with bitterness and envy.
Dumb ass/ignorant ass/hating ass/Dr. Khalid Wannabe!!
“You will know the True Believers, for they are the successful ones”.
Good Luck Agent Eric.
AMUHAMMAD also says:
You still never answered the question Agent Eric.
You can tell a tree (Elijah & Farrakhan) by the fruit (FOI & MGT) it bears!!
Where is your FRUIT Agent Eric?
Show us all your FRUIT, where is your work?…Temple #15. It will be shut down in 1 year,
WE say:
You must have gotten your figures on our membership from the same source as the one that had you making a complete azz outta yourself claiming our Eric Muhammad to be Eric Ture Muhammad.
We are building a Temple and not a Nation. That’s also what the front page says jerk!
So check back in a year and we’ll see what has happened. It’ll be nice to not have to deal with a jackazz like you for a year.
May 7, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
It is sad that you that claim to love The Messenger are at odds like this.
There is no need to debate on these postings/blogs..etc.
The real battle is fought and won in the streets of Amerikka for the minds and heartd of our people. We all must be able to teach, educate, and transorm The lives and conditions of our people. No one, since the departure on The Messenger, has been able to do this but Minister Farrakhan. What ever beef or disagrement that you may have Minister Eric is between you and Allah. Not with Minister Farrakhan. You state that he is not teaching right, well then WHO IS?
Something is wrong with your message from “The Messenger”. You sound like a female that just lost her man the way that you speak. You sound like a little lost girl, who is looking for a father.
You are not speaking about liberation. You speak more on bitterness and envy and it sounds like Minister Farrakhan broke your heart. Is this True?
Do you feel that the 10 or so people that are apart of your temple are the only 10 people in the world that are correct?
The God in you Eric, will never connect with The God in the masses. Your Heart needs to be Circumcised. There is too much debris and disease in your heart that is polluting your words when you speak about Allah.
You will never be successful. Find another gig my brother!!
June 22, 2009 at 11:20 am |
THE MOST HONORABLE SILIS MUHAMMAD IS TEACHING RIGHT. Minister Farrakhan is trying to lead you back into the belief of a spirit god, Bro. Shabazz. You seem not to see anything wrong with that. Minister Farrakhan is encouraging his followers to integrate, not separate like The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, (Peace Be Upon Him) taught. Minister Farrakhan is encouraging his followers to vote & participate in the U.S. political system contrary to what The Hon. Elijah Muhammad, (PBUH) taught. So, that in small part makes Minister Farrakhan a HYPOCRITE. He doesnt even mention the name of Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever. Farrakhan says: In The Name Of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful. THEM (PBUH) said plainly in Message To The Blackman, “you cannot believe in the prophet and not in the Godthat sent him.” That, in whole part, makes Minister Farrakhan a HYPOCRITE. This isnt by my words, it is by the actions of Minister Farrakhan and the words of THEM (PBUH). Your argument is not with Minister Eric, it is with yourself, because THE TRUTH is plain, brother.
May 7, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
Sorry for the typing errors. But I’m sure that you get the point.
May 7, 2008 at 3:16 pm |
Eric Muhammad is a fraud!!
I heard him speak in Richmond, Va and he is in no way interested in Unity.
Unity is the most important thing for Black, Native Americans and Hispanic people.
You should find another job, because being a Minister will not work for you.
salaam
June 22, 2009 at 11:05 am |
Minister Eric Muhammad is the only one I have heard thus far who has had the courage to speak the truth, whether it made him look good or bad.
So, my question for you Amil is, are you even in The Nation??? If you are then you should understand that Minister Eric is not a fraud, but a Muslim who is telling the truth for the benefit of other Muslims who have been misled by the falsehoods of Minister Farrakhan’s teachings. If you actually knew the teachings of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, (Pace Be Upon Him) you would not be so critical of Minister Eric.
May 7, 2008 at 3:54 pm |
J. Shabazz says:
It is sad that you that claim to love The Messenger are at odds like this.
There is no need to debate on these postings/blogs..etc.
The real battle is fought and won in the streets of Amerikka for the minds and heartd of our people. We all must be able to teach, educate, and transorm The lives and conditions of our people. No one, since the departure on The Messenger, has been able to do this but Minister Farrakhan. What ever beef or disagrement that you may have Minister Eric is between you and Allah. Not with Minister Farrakhan. You state that he is not teaching right, well then WHO IS?
Something is wrong with your message from “The Messenger”. You sound like a female that just lost her man the way that you speak. You sound like a little lost girl, who is looking for a father.
You are not speaking about liberation. You speak more on bitterness and envy and it sounds like Minister Farrakhan broke your heart. Is this True?
Do you feel that the 10 or so people that are apart of your temple are the only 10 people in the world that are correct?
The God in you Eric, will never connect with The God in the masses. Your Heart needs to be Circumcised. There is too much debris and disease in your heart that is polluting your words when you speak about Allah.
You will never be successful. Find another gig my brother!!
WE say:
Who you think you talkin to? You Farrakhan flunky azz nigguhs crack me the hell up! You talk to people whom you should respect like you think you talkin to nobody. You so far up Farrakhan’s raggedy azz you can’t respect anybody unless they’re either Farrakhan or somebody who’s azz Farrakhan happens to be kissin at the time. This is why you talk to Ministers of a Messenger you claim love for like they are nobody, but boot-lick and buck-dance like a buncha steppin-fetchin azz nigguhs for some God damned Christian preachers The Messenger said were his worst enemies!
Why can’t you disagree with our Minister without being so disrespectful? I’ll tell you why! That raggedy, no good bastard you followin won’t check yo azz and make you show no damned respect… that’s why!!!
You God damned faggots don’t step to the preachuhs…
the rich, the slave makers of the poor who teach the poor lies… to believe that the almighty, true, and living God is a spook and can not be seen by the physical eye… the blood suckers of the poor……… the way you nastily and disrespectfully step to those of us………………….
who are poor righteous teachers who do not believe in the teachings of the ten percent and are all wise and know who the living God is and teach that the living God is the Son of Man, The Supreme being, The Blackman from Asia and teach freedom, justice, and equality to all the human family of the planet earth… otherwise known as civilized people also as Muslims and Muslim Sons.
Your idiot azz leader has you hatin on us the 5% while you rubbin elbows and makin friends with the God damned 10% and the 85% who believe in the teachings of the 10% on face value!!!
Go to hell God Damnit!!!!!
May 7, 2008 at 4:04 pm |
Eric said, or Temple 15 or some a-hole said:
“In fact, Louis Farrakhan has tried to diminish the name “Muhammad”, by given it out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Messenger never gave out Holy-names so foolishly.”
Well you are “THE DICK” I repeat, “THE DICK” that he gave it to.
How can you say that he’s not teaching right, but he taught you about T.H.E.M and named you!!! Farrakhan named you!!
Why would you continue to wear the name that FARRAKHAN gave you if you disagree with him so much.
Start with yourself….Dick!! Look in the mirror.
You are by NO means, absolutey NO Means “worthy of praise”!!!
Go back to Dick..Better yet, “Harry Dick”…Because that’s all that I hear coming from you!! Dick head preaching, a Dick heads spirit and a Dick heads message. And you can not produce.
How many members are in your Temple? I’m courious, because I only hear 4 to 6 hand claps at your lectures. And you are the “audio attendant” also. You are probably in charge of the garbage and trash containers too, right?
Because, thats all I hear from you is garbage.
(lol). What a joke!!!!
Have you ever met T.H.E.M in person? Or sat at his dinner table?
Did T.H.E.M ever give you any specific assignments?
Who are you?
Grow up man, evolve, elevate your mind. You are stuck in spiritual puberty. You still are speaking “baby Language” after almost 15+ years of trying to learn the word of God.
This is why your words comes across so ugly to True Believers!!
You are stuck in spiritual puberty!!
You are stuck in spiritual puberty!!
GROW UP!!
May 7, 2008 at 4:07 pm |
AMIL says:
Eric Muhammad is a fraud!!
I heard him speak in Richmond, Va and he is in no way interested in Unity.
Unity is the most important thing for Black, Native Americans and Hispanic people.
You should find another job, because being a Minister will not work for you.
salaam
WE say:
You’re a liar. Did you sign the attendance sheet? Did you sign it as Amil? So……………….. if we check the attendance sheet, we’ll find your name on it? I think not!
If you’re lying about having been there, does that not make you a fraud? I guess your actions here are those of a uniter and a righteous Muslim huh?
Get something through your ignorant head………………….
Eric Muhammad has not spoken one word against Master Fard Muhammad.
Eric Muhammad has not spoken one word against The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is The Messenger of Allah Master Fard Muhammad and he teaches us that it is he who has come to unite us under the cresent of Islam.
To preach Elijah Muhammad is to represent unity.
To reject the message and mission of Elijah Muhammad is to represent dis-unity.
You either with Elijah or you’re not! Period!
If you are, you are a uniter.
If you’re not, you are a divider. End of story!
May 7, 2008 at 4:27 pm |
MY SPIRIT says:
Eric said, or Temple 15 or some a-hole said:
“In fact, Louis Farrakhan has tried to diminish the name “Muhammad”, by given it out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The Messenger never gave out Holy-names so foolishly.”
Well you are “THE DICK” I repeat, “THE DICK” that he gave it to.
How can you say that he’s not teaching right, but he taught you about T.H.E.M and named you!!! Farrakhan named you!!
Why would you continue to wear the name that FARRAKHAN gave you if you disagree with him so much.
Start with yourself….Dick!! Look in the mirror.
You are by NO means, absolutey NO Means “worthy of praise”!!!
Go back to Dick..Better yet, “Harry Dick”…Because that’s all that I hear coming from you!! Dick head preaching, a Dick heads spirit and a Dick heads message. And you can not produce.
How many members are in your Temple? I’m courious, because I only hear 4 to 6 hand claps at your lectures. And you are the “audio attendant” also. You are probably in charge of the garbage and trash containers too, right?
Because, thats all I hear from you is garbage.
(lol). What a joke!!!!
Have you ever met T.H.E.M in person? Or sat at his dinner table?
Did T.H.E.M ever give you any specific assignments?
Who are you?
Grow up man, evolve, elevate your mind. You are stuck in spiritual puberty. You still are speaking “baby Language” after almost 15+ years of trying to learn the word of God.
This is why your words comes across so ugly to True Believers!!
You are stuck in spiritual puberty!!
You are stuck in spiritual puberty!!
GROW UP!!
WE say:
What an azz! You think you can count the number of damned hand claps in a damned lecture? What kind of idiot are you?
How many members are in T. D. Jakes church? I’ll tell you how many! More than there are in Farrakhan’swhole organization… that’s how many!!!
Does that make him greater than Farrakhan?
When Farrakhan was first getting started and there was just him Khallid and Theron rollin around in his Seville or perhaps some other vehicle, was he less great than you believe him to be now? He put several engines in that car over a short time because he was so God Damned raggedy at the time that’s the best he could do to get around to his speaking engagements! You Johnny come lately, jackazz nigguhs aint got a clue bout what it takes to build something and you have no respect for the process by which something is built. The nigguh started out in the basement of a damned house! Were you somewhere outside the house trying to count the number of hand claps coming from the damned basement nigguh? Shut the hell up!!!
Ministers are supposed to have Holy names idiot! Eric Muhammad was a Minister when he received his name!
And cut the bullisht nigguh! If Eric Muhammad were the nothin you say he is, we wouldn’t be havin this conversation now would we? Why you wastin time wit a nobody and “a hole” bout a joke azz nigguh like Eric Muhammad? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?????
You mean to tell me wit a great and magnificent leader like Farrakhan you aint got no bigger fish to God Damned fry bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make like J. Shabazz and go to hell! and dip yo azz in gasoline fore you git there!!!
May 7, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
They say: Who you think you talkin to?
Shabazz: I’m talking to Temple #15. I am not a follower of Farrakhans, but I do and have Much respect for the man.
They say: “You talk to people whom you should respect”
Shabazz: I do not respect anyone that disrespects any member of The Nation of Islam. Under The Honorable Elijah Muhammad or under Minister Farrakhan.
They say: This is why you talk to Ministers of a Messenger you claim love for like they are nobody.
Shabazz: Who made you a minister? Did T.H.E.M make you a minister or did Farrakhan make you a minister. If he did, did not he kick you out of The Nation as your profile states?
They say:”Why can’t you disagree with our Minister without being so disrespectful?”
Shabazz: Did Eric disagree with Farrakhan in a respectful manner? I will answer…NO. I can you expect to receive respect, when you do not express your respect. I heard several of Eric’s lectures on YouTube. did he show respect. if not, which he did not, don’t expect none.
They say:”That raggedy, no good bastard you followin won’t check yo azz and make you show no damned respect… that’s why”
Shabazz: Was this above statement respectful? “raggedy, no good bastard”
Your little-bitty, apple headed minister is broke as hell. Farrakhan, by no means is raggedy. But, was this a respectful statement to make?
They say: “You God damned faggots don’t step to the preachuhs”
Shabazz: Was this above statement respectful?…No it was not. I was actually attempting to show a little respect, but I see that you all have none. So I will in the future become more of an irritant to you all.
They say: “the rich, the slave makers of the poor who teach the poor lies”.
Shabazz: Who were and are Elijah’s enemies? And who are Farrakhans enemies? And I will add you (Temple #15) to this list also. you all are doing a better job than “The slave master” You have the “Mark of The Beast” in your forehead and in your right hand. You all are doing a great job of slandering the name of Minister Farrakhan. I will never respect Negro Muslims like you all!!
They say: “Your idiot azz leader has you hatin on us the 5%”
Shabazz: Was this above statement respectful?….No..But once again, I represent The 5%. I am a poor righteous teacher. In 1998, I opened a community civic center for young black males (ages 8 to 15) focusing on behavioral and social issues that affects our community. We also train them for jobs/interviewing skill development etc. Don’t tell me about being a teacher or mentor.
They say: “believe in the teachings of the 10% on face value”
Shabazz: You are doing a better job than the 10%. Your words and actions in regards to Minister Farrakhan speaks for itself. Remember that Yacub was a black man, and he organized the people who were dis-satisfied to make a new people. We don’t have to deal with the actual germ, but the spiritual germ of being dissatisfied is present in you all.
They say: “Go to hell God Damnit”
Shabazz: Was that repectful?…no….But if you really understood the teachings, then you would know that no place exist!!
So, I can’t go “to hell”, and will not.
But I will give you idiots hell here, on these postings/websites/blogs until you all wake up and understand the MISSION of T.H.E.M and his MINISTER, DISCIPLE, and NUMBER ONE STUDENT.
And you will submit!!
May 7, 2008 at 5:10 pm |
J SHABAZZ says:
They say: Who you think you talkin to?
Shabazz: I’m talking to Temple #15. I am not a follower of Farrakhans, but I do and have Much respect for the man.
They say: “You talk to people whom you should respect”
Shabazz: I do not respect anyone that disrespects any member of The Nation of Islam. Under The Honorable Elijah Muhammad or under Minister Farrakhan.
They say: This is why you talk to Ministers of a Messenger you claim love for like they are nobody.
Shabazz: Who made you a minister? Did T.H.E.M make you a minister or did Farrakhan make you a minister. If he did, did not he kick you out of The Nation as your profile states?
They say:”Why can’t you disagree with our Minister without being so disrespectful?”
Shabazz: Did Eric disagree with Farrakhan in a respectful manner? I will answer…NO. I can you expect to receive respect, when you do not express your respect. I heard several of Eric’s lectures on YouTube. did he show respect. if not, which he did not, don’t expect none.
They say:”That raggedy, no good bastard you followin won’t check yo azz and make you show no damned respect… that’s why”
Shabazz: Was this above statement respectful? “raggedy, no good bastard”
Your little-bitty, apple headed minister is broke as hell. Farrakhan, by no means is raggedy. But, was this a respectful statement to make?
They say: “You God damned faggots don’t step to the preachuhs”
Shabazz: Was this above statement respectful?…No it was not. I was actually attempting to show a little respect, but I see that you all have none. So I will in the future become more of an irritant to you all.
They say: “the rich, the slave makers of the poor who teach the poor lies”.
Shabazz: Who were and are Elijah’s enemies? And who are Farrakhans enemies? And I will add you (Temple #15) to this list also. you all are doing a better job than “The slave master” You have the “Mark of The Beast” in your forehead and in your right hand. You all are doing a great job of slandering the name of Minister Farrakhan. I will never respect Negro Muslims like you all!!
They say: “Your idiot azz leader has you hatin on us the 5%”
Shabazz: Was this above statement respectful?….No..But once again, I represent The 5%. I am a poor righteous teacher. In 1998, I opened a community civic center for young black males (ages 8 to 15) focusing on behavioral and social issues that affects our community. We also train them for jobs/interviewing skill development etc. Don’t tell me about being a teacher or mentor.
They say: “believe in the teachings of the 10% on face value”
Shabazz: You are doing a better job than the 10%. Your words and actions in regards to Minister Farrakhan speaks for itself. Remember that Yacub was a black man, and he organized the people who were dis-satisfied to make a new people. We don’t have to deal with the actual germ, but the spiritual germ of being dissatisfied is present in you all.
They say: “Go to hell God Damnit”
Shabazz: Was that repectful?…no….But if you really understood the teachings, then you would know that no place exist!!
So, I can’t go “to hell”, and will not.
But I will give you idiots hell here, on these postings/websites/blogs until you all wake up and understand the MISSION of T.H.E.M and his MINISTER, DISCIPLE, and NUMBER ONE STUDENT.
And you will submit!!
WE say:
Nigguh please! Just how irritated do you think you can make us? Farrakhan started the dis-respect by dis-respecting The Messenger. You started the dis-respect by coming at us the way you did. Period. You got responded to in kind. Period.
We already submit to Allah Master Fard Muhammad through our obedience to his Messenger The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
You think you can make us submit to Farrakhan’s bullisht?
Try it then!!!
And again……………. if we’re such a joke, why you wastin time on some lil guppies like us? Aint got no bigger fish to fry? What does that tell us about you?!!!
May 7, 2008 at 5:25 pm |
Something is wrong with you little girls!!
Crybaby ass faggots, that want to be in The NOI, but got their little asses spanked and got kicked out!! Ohhh…woe is me…faggot stop wining in your lectures so damn much.!!!
Get another job DUMMY, you will never..ever…ever..ever be respected and trusted as a minister of T.H.E.M.
The ten other faggots, lame-ass, biches that are with you may wake up one day!!
Eric The Dick!! Thats your name faggot, now I’m naming you. I’m naming now you bitch!! Eric “The Dick”…he gave Tom and Harry a name. i’m gone call you what you are…
I know that you will accept the name eventually, because that is one of your attributes. Wining and crying all the damn time about what Farrahkan is doing….farrakhan said…farrakan did in 1972, farrakhan..farrakhan in a lecture in 1998 said…..I have never heard a grown-ass name, talk about another man so damn much.
You are a faggot..I bet you go to bed at night in you liitle muslims pajamas thinking about farrakhan…
Don’t you?..little soft ass/punk ass/gay ass wannabe Dr khalid.
Sissy ass…get over it!!
Punk ass sissy!!
May 7, 2008 at 5:53 pm |
MY SPIRIT says:
Something is wrong with you little girls!!
Crybaby ass faggots, that want to be in The NOI, but got their little asses spanked and got kicked out!! Ohhh…woe is me…faggot stop wining in your lectures so damn much.!!!
Get another job DUMMY, you will never..ever…ever..ever be respected and trusted as a minister of T.H.E.M.
The ten other faggots, lame-ass, biches that are with you may wake up one day!!
Eric The Dick!! Thats your name faggot, now I’m naming you. I’m naming now you bitch!! Eric “The Dick”…he gave Tom and Harry a name. i’m gone call you what you are…
I know that you will accept the name eventually, because that is one of your attributes. Wining and crying all the damn time about what Farrahkan is doing….farrakhan said…farrakan did in 1972, farrakhan..farrakhan in a lecture in 1998 said…..I have never heard a grown-ass name, talk about another man so damn much.
You are a faggot..I bet you go to bed at night in you liitle muslims pajamas thinking about farrakhan…
Don’t you?..little soft ass/punk ass/gay ass wannabe Dr khalid.
Sissy ass…get over it!!
Punk ass sissy!!
WE say:
FOTFLMBAO!!!
I thought you guys were supposed to be “irritating” us! LOL!!! Looks like the tables have turned now doesn’t it? LOL!!!
Looks also like it’s you guys who’ll be goin to bed in your lil jammys thinkin bout MINISTER ERIC MUHAMMAD! FOTFLOL!!!!!
Keep sweatin us! We love the attention! Where else can we get any? LOL!!!
July 18, 2008 at 1:16 pm |
Sounds like a bunch of HATERS, why don’t you focus on building up instead of tearing down. Don’t hate on the accolades and work of another man, you Negroes with the Willie Lynch syndrome need your heads cut off.
July 18, 2008 at 1:46 pm |
As Salaam Alaikum
Minister Farrakhan turned hypocrite on The Messenger after he left. Farrakhan said that out of his own mouth. So there’s nothing to argue about there. He claims he came back to true belief in The Messenger 3 years later. We say that’s a lie. We say he never came all the way back. We have demonstrated that he never came all the way back. It’s that simple.
As Salaam Alaikum
June 22, 2009 at 9:55 am |
If you honestly believe Minister Farrakhan is a HYPOCRITE, why are you still with him ??? What prevents you from joining on with The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad ??? Is it fear of the loss of position, prestige, or authority ??? Why is a HYPOCRITE being allowed to divide our house when a “house divided against itself cannot stand ???” How can we reach the people when we lack UNITY amongst ourselves ??? Why is a HYPOCRITE being allowed to hold us in a state of disunity ???
If you REALLY BELIEVE what you say about Minister Farrakhan, you should be in The Nation under the leadership of The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad.
July 22, 2008 at 11:11 am |
As-Salaam-Alaikum,
All of this arguing just breaks my heart. I was Khallid’s personal asst. and finally captain up until 1998. I did not join the panther party because it was not me. Something is wrong everyone. I joined the N.O.I. in 1991 in Los Angeles knowing nothing at all. I struggled to learn all that I could and finally all I see is us tearing one another apart. I have been asked several times to return “home” to the MOSQUE. For what to engage this arguing and destruction on each other. I will stand all by myself and die in the streets before I do that. We are not acting like Doctors. We are acting like patients. MENTALLY ILL PATIENTS. Gotta go now Yall! Today is my birthday the sun is shining and I am going to reflect upon W.F.M. and his last messenger T.H.E.M. PEACE!!!
June 23, 2009 at 2:37 pm |
I met Khalid Muhammad in ‘91, I think it was. We were in Atlanta, Georgia. I had originally become aware of him as Dr. Malik Rushdeen. Very deep brother. I dont know why he went to the NBPP, or why he refused to join The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad since he was a Muslim. But he was a good brother in my opinion.
Anger and ill feelings always emerge when TRUTH comes forth. It happened with Malcolm, it happened when The Nation was destroyed, and it is happening now that someone has had the courage to speak the TRUTH about Minister Farrakhan, brother. But I believe we will all be together in UNITY, one day… with the exception of those who reject TRUTH.
As-Salaam-Alaikum
August 10, 2008 at 2:09 am |
What brother Eric doesn’t know is that a very “few” and select crew have and are preparing to move on him and take him down for the final count. We are going to make the hit that was executed on that hypocrite Malcolm Little look like childs play. There will be no mercy shown to this asshole for the disrespect he has shown for our Minister. I have told him before, what I was going to personally do to his corpse and my word is bond. We, the death angels, will carry out our mission that has been blessed and sanctioned by the Main body. To Agent Eric, no reply is necessary. I just wanted you to know that the hit was coming so that when you felt it, you would know it came from someone who looks like you and not some fake azz story about “the Gov’t did it.” I leave you now, not with Salaam, I don’t wish you any peace. Just say hello and prepare for your journey to the underworld.
June 23, 2009 at 2:23 pm |
TO: the Shareef in the East,
You claim to be a Death Angel, so tell me, brother… what was the original mission of The Death Angels ???
If you cant tell me, then you are only a malicious killer who has been offended bt the TRUTH spoken in regards to Minister Farrakhan. You have been given a documented proof together with looking at Farrakhan’s actions over the years, yet, you reject that TRUTH and threaten a brothers life. What kind of Muslim are you, for real ???
August 11, 2008 at 6:05 pm |
The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah, The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad stood up on the mountain top of Great America and called the white man (the ruler of this world of darkness and the possessor of this world’s greatest military) THE DEVIL. And Messenger Muhammad did this for 40+ years in the belly of the beast (America) and The Beast couldn’t do a thing to stop him. So why would his strictess followers fear a bunch of niggers (the Shareef in the East)?
August 11, 2008 at 6:08 pm |
I meant strictest.
August 11, 2008 at 6:49 pm |
By the way I am an X-follower of Louis Farrakhan. I woke up and smelled that straight black coffee (the life giving teachings of the Last and Greatest Messenger of Allah, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad).
That black coffee diluted with a lot of cream and sugar (the death giving teachings of Wallace Deen Mohammed and Louis Farrakhan) kept me asleep.
August 12, 2008 at 8:34 pm |
ALL PRAISES DUE TO ALLAH FOR THE MOST HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD, THE LAST AND GREATEST MESSENGER OF ALLAH!
June 22, 2009 at 11:48 am |
All praises should be due to Master W.D Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever, with The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, (Peace Be Upon Him) being held in our loving memory as The Last 7 Greatest messenger of Allah (in person).
I see you havent gotten completely over those “death giving teachings,” my brother. You should look into The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad. You will find “life giving teachings” with Him, because He speakes nothing but the TRUTH.
September 7, 2008 at 9:45 am |
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September 19, 2008 at 10:28 am |
AS SALAAM ALIKUM. I BELIEVE ITS DEFINATELY TIME TO STOP THESE FOOLISH DIVISIONS. LETS BE TRUE MUSLIMS AND RECOGNIZE THE MONUMENTAL EFFORTS OF THE HONORABLE LOUIS FARRAKHAN IN DEMOSTRATING THE TEACHINGS OF THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD. LETS STOP DISSECTING EVER SPEECH, EVERY PARAPHRASE, ETC AND CONTINUE SUPPORTING OUR BROTHER. SHAME , SHAME, SHAME ON US. WE MUST RISE ABOVE OUR EMOTIONS INTO THE THINKING OF GOD….ALL PRAISE IS DUE TO THE MOST HIGH GOD AND HIS MESSENGER, THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD. HOLD IT! AND HIS DEVINE REMINDER, WHO SPENT YEARS TEACHING, SACRIFICING AND BRINGING IT TO THE FORE FRONT, THE TEACHINGS OF THE HONORABLE MUHAMMAD. THEREFORE REMINDING US TO BE CONSCIOUS AND DEVELOPED IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE “MESSENGER” OF GOD. GET OUT OF YOUR EGO, BROTHER! LETS FIND PEACE WITHIN THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY. GENESIS 15:13-16, ALLOWS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE AS A NATION HAVE THIS PROPHESY/HISTORY/SLAVERY IN COMMON WITH ONE ANOTHER. WE HAVE MORE IN-COMMON THAN NOT. WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE OURSELVES. NOW COMES THE CONSCIOUS PART. JUST SIMPLY STOP THE JEALOUSY AND ENVY AND HATING OF YOUR OWN BELOVED BROTHER, THE HONORABLE LOUIS FARRAKHAN. YOUR SISTER, MOCA DOMINGUEZ MUHAMMAD.MUCH PEACE TO YOU BELOVED. P.S. PLEASE INFORM SISTER ZAKIYAH KARRIEM THAT THE UNIFORMS WE ORDERED ARE SPECTACULAR!
June 19, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
As-Salaam-Alaikum,Sister:
If Minister Farrakhan were speaking the infallible Truth, there could be no criticism of him. But, because he speaks the Truth mixed with vicious LIES he has come under fire from even his own ministers.
Is Minister Farrakhan Truly demonstrating the teachings to you ??? The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah told his followers not to vote, and not to participate in the U.S. political process.
Truth is Truth, Sister… and when Truth comes falsehood must perish.
November 28, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
As-Salaam Alaikum,
Dear Bro. Eric,
This is Bro. Muhammad from Newark, NJ. The electrician and tape dept. brother under Min. Khadir. I also went on to get my pilot’s license back in 1999 as you can tell in my email address.
Bro. Eric, It’s good to see you again after twenty something years. I remember you and your cousin in the mosque when I came back in 1986. We were on Broad St. Remember those days?…..lol.
Back in the 70’s when I was in the university of Islam #25, My late brother Joe 5X was a classmate of Min. Keith Muhammad.
I am writing this because I just found out about your Temple and your mission on youtube. I love you my brother, that’s why I’m reaching out to tell you that you are wrong. You have fallen way off track with regard to The Hon. Min. Farrakhan! Yes you are right….The Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad IS the Leader of the Nation of Islam and always will be….AND Min. Farrakhan IS the one that Allah has raised to guide us in His absence. PERIOD. Not Bro. Khallid, Not Imam Mohammad, Not Salis and
Not You……
I’ve always respected you and Min. Keith and I still do, but you are simply wrong. AND unless The Hon. Elijah Muhammad return and says otherwise…..I’M STICKING WITH FARRAKHAN!
May Allah bless you and us all
Your Brother
Muhammad Rahim
ifrpilot.rahim@gmail.com
November 28, 2008 at 5:22 pm |
And I’ll say one more thing to all of you so-called “death angels”, you need to stop your foolishness. You can’t do any harm to this brother unless Allah permit it! Why are we so stupid to fall into the same traps that we have before? It makes me sick to see that all we want to do is fight and kill each other when we disagree! Like The Hon. Elijah Muhammad said of Malcolm, Leave him alone!!!
Although I disagree with Bro. Eric, I recognize his right to voice his opinion on Min. Farrakhan. None of us should be threatening him or those with him or even wishing for harm to come to him! This is stupid. Allah is God….He guides whom He pleases and chastises who He please.
You better be careful that you don’t call those “death angels on yourself”!!!
June 23, 2009 at 9:08 am |
Is it OPINION or FACT, brother ???
What do you know about me ???
Death only comes to the enemies of Allah, not to those who SPEAK THE TRUTH. But you are correct about “fighting and killing when we disagree.” Our problem is that we tend to give loyalty not to the flag of Islam, or to the constitution we have never had, or even to a rule of law. But to our lieutenants, captaiand high officials. We get caught up in a “Cult of Personality.” That is the only threat you can be speaking of when you admonish Minister eric not to call death upon himself, and that does not necessarily have to ome from a Death Angel. It can come from some ignorant brother who has had his sensibilities offended to the point where he is ready to kill in spite of what the Truth is. If Minister Farrakhan is WRONG, he cannot be right. and if you support WRONG, what does that make you, brother ???
November 28, 2008 at 7:20 pm |
Well Bro. Eric, Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion BUT the foul and disrespectful language that I read here, that you use toward the Minister has really shown me your level of sickness! I guess you’ve been through alot in the 2 decades since we last talked. No matter whether you feel he’s right or wrong, I’m really shocked and appalled at your words!!!
Min. Farrakhan is not a “bastard” , “nigguh” and some of the other terms you used. I think all the name calling should stop! It’s childish to say the least.
So with that said……..I don’t think I’ll be calling you to chat about the good old days in Newark. Because if you used those terms in reference to Min. Farrakhan while we were on the phone………. You’d quickly get a busy tone!
I’ll continue to check your website and it’s contents now that I happened to just stumble upon it (I was actually looking at something else when I found you on youtube).
May Allah heal your heart from the poison that afflicts you.
Your Brother
Muhammad
June 23, 2009 at 8:52 am |
TO BRO. MUHAMMAD RAHIM:
The disrespectful language is probably inappropriate, but does that ACTUALLY make Minister Eric SICK ???
Think about it… when you first came into the knowledge of Truth… of Self, God, and the Devil, you cant tell me you were not ANGRY over the sudden realization that you had been DECEIVED. Minister Eric has come to such a REALIZATION with regard to Minister Farrakhan, so while you may not appreciate his language, you should understand Minister Eric’s feelings of ANGER and BETRAYAL by a man he once looked up to, respected, admired, and held in the highest esteem, and most likely would have given his life for. Your reasons for breaking ties with Minister Eric are not valid, brother. You shoud have more COMPASSION and UNDERSTANDING for your brother, because it could have been you. Minister Eric has had the courage to openly state the same thing that I am sure ALOT OF MINISTERS ARE THINKING, but refrain from speaking their minds to avoid the same criticism that Minister Eric has come under.
June 16, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
The above article may as well have openly stated that Minister Farrakhan is a Hypocrite. Do you follow a Hypocrite or one who stands on the teachings of The Hon. Elijah Muhammad (PBUH) 100% ??
June 16, 2009 at 12:59 pm |
You told the ABSOLUTE TRUTH, Brother Minister. Anyone who doubts it need only go back o the first (3) Bilalian News publications that appeared after Warith took over.
June 18, 2009 at 10:43 am |
IN THE NAME OF MASTER W.D. FARD MUHAMMAD, HIS IS THE NAME OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH, THE GREAT MAHDI, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, TO WHOM ALL PRAISES ARE DUE FOREVER; IN LOVING MEMORY OF THE LAST & GREATEST MESSENGER OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH, MOSES, WHO APPEARED IN THE PERSON OF THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) OUR SPIRITUAL MOTHER, MARY OF THE BOOK; AND IN THE NAME OF THE MOST HONORABLE SILIS MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET LIKE MOSES, CHRIST, SOLOMON & JOSHUA, THE SPIRITUAL SON OF ALIGHTY ALLAH, HIS IS THE NAME OF THE SON OF MAN. THERE IS NO (GOD) ALLAH BESIDES THE HUMAN BEING MAN.
AS-SALAAM- ALAIKUM
TO: BRO. MINISTER ERIC MUHAMMAD,
Having stated that Minister Farrakhan is a “hostile enemy” to the truth taught by The Hon. Elijah Muhammad (PBUH), then Minister Farrakhan must be speaking something “other than the truth.” This being the case, should you Truly believe that THEM (PBUH) is “departed,” or that “He Lives?” A HOSTILE ENEMY TO THE TRUTH WILL NOT SPEAK THE TRUTH. So, this being the case, has Minst. Farrakhan LIED to his followrs about THEM (PBUH) ???
I would say that he has indeed LIED.
The Last & Greatest Messenger of Almighty Allah is not up on The Plane waiting t return.
Minister Farrakhan claims to be The National Representative of THEM (PBUH) while the latter is “departed.” Remember that Ya’kub brought about the doctrine of “the spirit god.” We know this deceit to exist inside of Christianity. The once you stand up as a Muslim, there is absolutely nothing the white man can tell you about religion any longer. The only way that you as a Muslim can be deceived is by The Beast (whom, according to The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad is none other that Minister Farrakhan himself). By someone saying As-Salaam-Alaikum, just like you. Someone leading you into the belief of a “spirit (god) Allah” and the practice of Jumah Prayer. This National Representative is analogous to the popes of the Catholic Church, claiming to stand in place of (The Exalted) Christ, until such time as Christ returns. It is essentially the same LIE the popes have been telling for the past 1,973 years.
WHO IS THE 2ND BEAST IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS ???
The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah never taught that he was Jesus. It is not in any of The Messenger’s books, tapes, or articles. Farrakhan is not teaching Islam, he is teaching his-lam…
June 18, 2009 at 11:00 am |
If the Truth be known concerning Minister Farrakhan, how can you as a student of the teachings of THEM (PBUH) follow a man who you openly state is a HOSTILE ENEMY to those teachings, unless you yourselves are such ENEMIES ???
I dont believe you are. Why then, have you not gone down the street to 3040 Campbellton, Rd. and joined on with The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad ??? You have to go no further than the other side of Greenbriar Mall, Brother…
It is your duty to stand on Truth as you know it, whether your action(s) as a result of standing on that Truth make you popular or not. My life, my death, my prayer, my sacrifice are all for Allah.
You have a serious MORAL DECISION to make Brother Minister.
June 22, 2009 at 12:04 pm |
What you should do as minister of #15 is call a conference with your asst ministers, secretary, FOI & MGT captains, intelligence officer/investigator, and any other mosque officials that need to be involved. You should all come to a consensus about Minister Farrakhans HYPOCRISY and pass a resolution with respect thereto. You should next present this resolution the believers at a “believers meeting” and take a vote as to whether the mosque remains wtih Farrakhan, or goes over to The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad.
If you remain with Farrakhan, you cant be anything other than what he is, if you support him after the truth has cometo you. I do not believe you are anything like him. So do your moral duty, brother minister.
June 24, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Whoever the minister of #15 is now, you should take the above advice since all this information about Minister Farrakhan is being run on your site. It suggests that you concur, at least in principle.
June 18, 2009 at 11:17 am |
The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad stood up and went to Chicago, Ill. (The old Mosque #2) where he handed Wallace (Warith) D. Muhammad a document entitled DECLARATION OF SPIRITUAL WAR on 21 August, 1977. Mr. Muhammad, at great risk to his own life, personally told Warith that he was resurrecting The Lost-Found Nation of Islam. Farrakhan stood later, feeding off of Mr Muhammad’s act of courage that he (Farrakhan) was himself lacking.
June 18, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
My question is what has Farrakhan done with all the money he has collected from the believers over he past 32 years??? THEM (PBUH) acconplished more from 1960 to 1975 than Farrakhan has sinc 1978 to present. The Nation is not being built under him.
June 18, 2009 at 4:32 pm |
ALL YOU HYPOCRITES OUT THERE who continue to criticize Brother Minister Eric Muhammad for having the courage to stand up and expose THE CHIEF HYPOCRITE (Minister Louis Farrakhan) will not prevail.
You demonstrate by the ignorance of our various statements that you have not studied the teachings of The Hon. Elijah Muhammad (PBUH), because if you had done do, you would not be defending Farrakhan. You would be condemning him, too.
June 18, 2009 at 4:41 pm |
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June 18, 2009 at 4:48 pm |
How many of you know that Minister Farrakhan is a 4-letter Mason & Shriner ??? A shrine is a “marker of the dead,” and a shriner is a “keeper of the dead,” except the dead we’re talking about here are Mental/spiritual, not physical.
Do you suppose that is why he publicly apologized to the (imposter) Jews after saying their religion was a “gutter religion ?” If he meant what he said and said what he meant because he was standing on TRUTH, why apologize to them ??? Jesus didnt apologize when he called them the devil at St. John 8:44
June 18, 2009 at 4:59 pm |
The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah IS PHYSICALLY DEAD. I know you brothers are not ready to accept this yet, but the truth will reveal itself in time just as Minister Farrakhan has revealed himslf.
When TRUTH comes, falsehood must perish. Qur’an 17:81.
June 18, 2009 at 5:03 pm |
Do you need scriptural proof concerning The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad, sir ??? If so, I can provide it for you.
June 18, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
Just as Ya’kub brought the doctrine of the “spirit god” to his made race, that same doctrine exists in Islam. We commonly refer to it as ORTHODOX Islam, something that is correct. Why does Minister Farrakhan insist on leading you in that direction. He (Farrakhan) doesnt even mention the name of Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever. Why then, would you believe that he (Farrakhan) has told you the TRUTH about THEM (PBUH) ???
June 19, 2009 at 11:49 am |
I stood up in 1974. At the time, there was a teaching in The Nation that equated THEM with Jesus, because they were both viewed as teachers of moral reform. The followers of the Messenger often referred to him as “The Lamb.” Bernard Cushmeer (Jibril Muhammad) later wrote a book entitled: The Jesus Book. He has a more recent book out asking is it possible that THEM (PBUH) is still alive. Now, remember that Jibril is a spiritual advisor to one you call A HOSTILE ENEMY to the teahings of THEM.
THEM (PBUH) was Moses. SEE, Exo. 33:11 and pg.-12 MTTB. After the death of Moses there was to come a Prophet Like Moses. SEE, Deu. 18:15, 18:18 & Acts 3:22-23. Who is the Prophet Like Moses ??? He was none other than Joshua. SEE, Num. 27:18-23. Joshua was to JUDGE the House of The Lord if he walked in His ways and kept His statutes. SEE, Zec. 3:6-7 and St. John 5:22 (all JUDGMENT hath been committed unto the son.) Joshua and Jesus are one and the same. NOWHERE IN THE MESSENGERS TEACHINGS DOES HE IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS JOSHUA. He was Mary of the book, who gave birth to Jesus. SEE, Jer. 30:6 and Rev. 12:1-2. In fact the fez worn by the Messenger in his life is symbolic of the crown of 12-stars spoken of at Rev. 12:2. THEM (PBUH) told us in How To Eat To Live, Bk II that: Jesus of 2,000 years ago was a sign for the last days…. [N]o one knew the birth of MUHAMMAD but the parents, Joseph and Mary. (The name Farrakhan does not mean Commendable & Praiseworthy, so Farrakhan was not being mentioned there. But, he changed his name to Louis Farrakhan-Muhammad for awhile, and then discontinued the use of Muhammad.)
We also know that THEM (PBUH) was King David of the book. That he had a son named Solomon who was to rule, but Solomons rule was interrupted by Adonijah, SEE, IKings, Ch 1. Adonijah being Minister Farrakhan.
In the past 32 years Farrakhan has never taught his followers that he was the Prophet Like Moses, Christ, Solomon, or Joshua—-all of whom have (spiritual) links to Moses, Mary & Kind David. This is the teaching of the Messenger. THEM (PBUH) cant be The Exalted Christ because Mary could not give birth to herself.
I pray you see the TRUTH in all of this…
June 22, 2009 at 1:04 am |
Elijah Muhammad was NOT the Messenger of Allah. Prophet Muhammad of Saudia Arabia was The Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets. To believe that Fard was “God in Person” is clearly at odds with the universal teachings of Islam and resembles Christianity more than Islam.
Now…..Farrakhan is CLEARLY a man with above average intelligence and he is a gifted orator. But, he is also an entertainer. He has turned his organization into his personal “piggy bank” and allowed personal and organizational corruption to defile the very name “Nation of Islam”.
Akbar Muhammad, his national representative, recently pleaded guilty to a felony crime (misallocation of funds) and may do prison time. He did not attend the funeral of Brother Khalid Muhammad, one of his most loyal supports. He has not spoken openly about all the the multiple “wives and children” of those in his organization. He SQUANDERED his opportunity to deliver a real message during the Million Man March and, instead, spent A LOT of time on “numerology”…..here, the entire WORLD is listening and he delivers a message that had no impact or import. Lastly, he HATED Brother Malcolm and DEFINITELY created the environment that made his martyrdom possible.
Then we have Ben Chazas, who was put out of the NAACP for sexual impropriety only to discover that he was accused of doing the same thing the NOI.
Ironically, what Malcolm was stay was TRUE about Elijah Muhammad and his “wives”. They were not “wives”. You don’t HIDE a wife….you bring her in public and give her a place of respect and honor.
Sadly, the NOI under Farrakhan demonstrates what is lacking in black organizations. His POWER product line failed, there is cronyism and nepotism within the inner circle, he is neither true to the teachings of Elija Muhammad nor Orthodox Islam, he uses the Bible more than the Quran to teach, and other than “entertaining”, there is NO evidence of his great work. No schools, few restaurants, no Muhammad Speaks (it’s now the Final Call), no factories, no farm land, no whitting fish, no Salam bakeries (where you could get the BEST steak sandwich in New York City), no nothing.
Yet….he still lives in “the palace”, wears $3,000 suits, orstrich shoes, drives in beautiful automobiles, etc.
Lastly, how the NOI can be credited with EVERYTHING that has a black focus is ridiculous. Before Elijah Muhammad there was Marcus Garvey who taught Islam. There was Nobel Drew Ali (and it has been PROVEN that Elijah was a member). So, Elijah Muhammad WISELY took the best from these and other organizations to build the NOI……most of which was due to Malcolm X.
History is history. You can try to change it, lie about it, present it in a way that favors your personal views….but it doesn’t change the facts.
Elijah Muhammad was DEFINITELY a wise man, an excellent teacher, a powerful leader. But he was NOT, the Messenger of Allah. To believe so puts one OUTSIDE of the fold of Islam. Not my words, Allah’s words.
June 22, 2009 at 9:11 am |
At Qur’an 61:6 it tells us that Jesus was the messenger of Allah, bringing glad tidings to THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL of a messenger to come after him, his name being Ahmad. Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) was an Arab of the Qurish tribe, and this message at 61:6 is clearly to THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. Therefore, the question to be asked is: Who is that Muhammad of The Children of Israel to come after Jesus. It is clearly not Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (PBUH) because he was not of The Children of Israel. There is none other who fits that description besides The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah.
This is no open to dispute, because the language of the Qur’an is plain, as is Muhammad Ibn Abdullah’s history and origins.
June 22, 2009 at 9:13 am
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June 23, 2009 at 8:35 am |
I wasnt going to comment on this, but for truth I feel I need to make something clear. Minister Farrakhan did not hate Malcolm X. Farrakhan was Malcolm’s protege at Mosque #11, in Boston. If Farrakhan had anything negative to say about Malcolm later, it was because Malcolm was a HYPOCRITE. In the biography MALCOLM:The Life Of A Man Who Changed Black America, by Bruce Perry (Station Hill Press), 1981 @p.272 it reads:
Another motive that had prompted Malcolm’s trip [to Mecca] became apparent when he told a journalist:
I hpoe that once and for all my hajj to the holy city of Mecca has established our Muslim Mosque’s authentic religious affiliation with the 750 million Muslims of the orthodox Islamic world.
Malcolm had first gone to Mecca in 1959. His autobiography has 43 detailed pages relating to his April 1964 hajj, where Malcolm claims to have first reconsidered that whites were devils. There is only one short unrevealing paragraph to his 1959 trip. The Qur’an tells us that The HYPOCRITES are deceitful and liars. Farrakhan himself has now fallen into the same category as his mentor.
June 26, 2009 at 8:42 am |
What do you know about the teachings of The Hon. Elijah Muhammad, (Peace Be Upon Him) ??? What do you know about Islam PERIOD ??? You sound like someone who thinks he knows that which he knows not, and doesnt even realize it. You really sound FOOLISH, brother.
FIRST: THEM, (PBUH) had several wives. Tynetta Muhammad was one of them and Minister Ishmael Muhammad is THEM’s physical son from her. The Messenger raised minister’s. Minister’s didnt raise The Messenger. So, if you are a true believer, then you know THEM,(PBUH) was with God in Person. God in Person told THEM,(PBUH) to take the wives in addition to Clara Muhammad, his first wife. The reason why The Messenger hid his wives was not because of any sense of wrong-doing, like those who malign the good name of The Messenger accuse. He hid them because his first wife Clara was very sensitive, and emotionally unable to cope with polygamy. The Qur’an tells you that you can have 4-wives. The bible predicts a day when 7-women will take hold to one man. The Messenger of Allah didnt need anyone he raised to marry him. All that was necessary was for him to say to the sister “in the name of Allah, henceforth you are my wife.” So what are you talking about, sir ???
SECOND: where did you come under the illusion that Marcus Garvey taught Islam ??? Garvey taught Black Nationalism.
THIRD: Noble Drew Ali taught so-called orthodox Islam mixed with masonic teachings. Neither he nor Garvey taught Islam according to the teachings of THEM, (PBUH).
FOURTH: The NOI is not only about Black focus. We are THE ONLY FOCUS you have if you want to escape the ultimate “fall & destruction” of Ameria.
June 22, 2009 at 1:51 am |
Who is the REAL leader of the “Nation of Islam”
Royal Muhammad – God in Person?
Marvin Muhammad – The Son of Man?
Louis Farrakhan?
Silas Muhammad?
It’s all quite confusing, don’t you th
June 22, 2009 at 9:26 am |
It is not confusing if you REALLY KNOW the teachings. Royal Muhammad cannot be God in Person, because God in Person is Master W.D.Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever. Marvin Muhammad cannot be The Son of Man, because the Son of Man is He who came from the East. That, too, is Master W.D.Fard Muhammad, to whom all praies are due forever. “For as the lightning cometh out of the east even unto the West, so shall the coming of the son of man be.” St. Matt.24:27. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, (Peace Be Upon Him) told us in How To Eat To Live, Book II:”Jesus of 2,000 years ago was a sign for the last days… he went on to say that: Nobody knew the birth of MUHAMMAD but the parents, Joseph & Mary.” (It can be found somewhere pgs. 46-48.) The name Farrakhan does not mean Commendable & Praiseworthy as does the name Muhammad, so The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah was not referring to Minister Farrakhan, nor was he referring to his physical son Wallace (Warith) D. Muhammad. That leaves only The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad. He is “the REAL LEADER” of The Lost-Found Nation of Islam.
June 22, 2009 at 9:30 am
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Line 15 should read:”somewhere between.”
June 22, 2009 at 9:45 am |
So-called orthodox Islam resembles Christianity more than Islam as taught by The Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah, THE TRUE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS, The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, (PBUH), because we know that Ya’kub made a race of devils and gave them a religion whose god is a spirit. THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES THE HUMAN BEING MAN. So you worship a spirit god just like the Christians do, but you want to contend that we are in error. The religion of the spirit god is the religion of The Beast and the anti-Christ. I cant expect you to understand this though Bro Rashid, because you dont even understand the language of the Qur’an at 61:6. But I will say this. The HYPOCRITES that followed Warith out of the Lost-Found Nation of Islam into The World Community of Al’ Islam in the West all had one common complaint, and that was that The Messenger didn teach out of the Qur’an; that the Qur’an laid on the shelf collecting dust. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (PBUH) taught us that “The bible is the graveyard of my people. Therein we were lost. Therein we must be found.” Brother, this simply means that if you could not understand the bible all you were going to do is pick the Qur’an up and get lost in that. You cannot understand the one (Qur’an) without first understanding the other (bible).
July 21, 2009 at 12:23 am |
In the name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful I bear witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger
Salaam Alaikum
This letter is in response to the slander and defamation of the man that I believe is the divinely chosen servant of Allah who came in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad. I have chosen to respond because we are commanded in the Holy Quran to fight with those who fight with you. I have listened to your Farrakhan vs. Elijah lecture and found many misquotes and misrepresentations of what the Minister as well as the Messenger actually wrote and said in his lectures and or study guides.
Before we get to that let us deal with this from a moral perspective. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad has given us a “Restrictive Law”, “Rules of Islam”, and “Rules of Conduct”, which has all but totally been violated. Does our dislike, disapproval, hatred, or our belief of the incorrectness of another, allow us to violate that which has been given to us by the Messenger of Allah? Lets not deal with rather Min. Farrakhan is right or wrong, lets deal with the Messengers instruction to us. Rule of Conduct #1; A Muslim must show the greatest intelligence at all times. Is it intelligent to speak in a derogatory manner against another Muslim on the World Wide Web before disbelievers and vicious enemies against the rise of us all? If so, please explain how? Number 2; states quote: “never” be the aggressor in word or in action, but in the event you are attacked stick together and battle as a solid wall. When has Minister Farrakhan attack you publicly which would justify your actions? Number 6 states; be pure in mind and body. Are these actions pure? No. 8 states; we are members of the Creator’s Nation so act like it in the Name of Allah, and set examples to the lost found. We all including Min. Farrakhan belong to Allah. Would you stand before Allah and make such judgments of Minister Farrakhan, call him before the God a bastard, let alone in front of his wife and children? Is this the way of the Messenger that you say you follow, if so when was he ever involved in such conduct? Please explain? No. 9; we must recognize the necessity of unity and group operation. No. 10; stop needless criticism of your brother, we must remember that jealousy destroys from within. Where is the need to publicly criticize a world leader, one who obviously was the instrument threw which Allah used to raise you, as well as myself, and tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of others, and even the countless amount that he would be bless to raise in the future? Which leads us to no. 12, where we are told; to be patient in matters involving others because it was a time where we that knew, knew not. No. 13; don’t take the bad side of things it is better to take the good side. No 14; actions may appear wrong but they are judged by intention. Would you put your life and all that you have on the belief that Minister Farrakhan’s intention is to do something wicked or evil to the Messenger? I hope you wouldn’t be so careless to make such a charge. No. 15; seek not to find fault with your brother…. No. 17; if you should see your brother in error correct him in the strictest of privacy. No. 21; a true Muslim should act justly, not only to other Muslims but also to non-Muslims and even those who are enemies to Islam. As sited above there are many rules of conduct that you have violated brother, which plays right into the hands of our enemies, and does nothing but work against the very work of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad in cleaning us up, uniting us, and presenting us as a righteous people who would be judges over the people of the world, and a living sacrifice to Allah who came in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad. The Restrictive Law states no slack talk,
no gossip, no lying. Speaking in a manner that defames another is forbidden, the Quran calls it “eating your brothers flesh.” With such open deviation to specific instruction which the Messenger gave us, the new convert, where there is room to make the charge of deviation to another. If we are so far off from the simplest instruction that most of us received upon entering, how can we be so arrogant as to make judgments on the direction the Messenger would take the Nation upon his departure, and make this assertion over a man that sat at the feet of the Lamb of God? This is foolishness at best. If you believe that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is the fulfiller of both bible and Quran, and he is, and if the Messenger said that he was to fulfill 75% of the Quran and the other part was for another man, and he would let that other man worry about his part (Buzz Anderson interview) who do you say that other man is?
Now as for the misquotes and misrepresentations, You stated quote: “Many who love and admire Minister Louis Farrakhan do so out of ignorance with respect to the relationship between Minister Farrakhan and the man who taught Minister Farrakhan. The Man of whom I speak is The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad,” end quote. Now I don’t want to be among the ignorant, but how can you know the intricate details of the relationship between the Messenger and His Representative? Who made you privy to such knowledge? So yes I will acknowledge that I am among the ignorant in that regard, so I can only go by an actual witness who was there namely Min. Farrakhan. Since he bears witness that there is no God but Allah who came in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad and The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (THEM) is His Messenger, I have to take him at his word, since a Muslims word is bond and bond is life. Unless you were there brother then it is hearsay or speaking from ignorance. Secondly the Minister has said many times in my presence, and in the presence of the believers that, he is not the leader he is the Nation Rep. of the Messenger as stated in our Nations Constitution. This is merely sayings or the writings of the scribes and some of the immature followers in the Nation. He has said publicly, and stopped in the middle of a lecture a few years ago, around 05, he no longer wanted any of his followers to address him as the leader, that is not his place but the Messengers place. He has represented himself as the representative which is just that, an extension of another, or one authorized to act for another, and example or type, which is the definition of the word. So how could he be incorrect in that stance? This dissatisfaction that you have with the Minister in his position with Warith Deen is expected, when there is reluctance to critically question and analyze not the agent, but the cause behind the actions, which is none other than God Himself.
Warith Deen’s works were undoubtedly put into motion by Master Fard Muhammad, in his infinite wisdom, for us to learn and become greater helpers in his work of consuming the entire planet, and ultimately the universe, under his universal government. Not for us to sit and defame, slander, and backbite, or front bite for that matter, because of the hurt that the work has caused. Minister Farrakhan did what any honorable man would do, who was attempting to display that high nobility of his teacher. He stood by the man who was chosen to lead the Nation, and tried his best to represent that man, with the same vigor and vitality upon which he represented his father. He saw the changes and sat and reflected deeply upon the changes, and why Allah would allow such work to be done. This is something that is difficult for most of us to perceive as a people, because we find it difficult to unify and to know the importance of leadership. He did that, as he has expressed, as many of the articles’ of that day would bear witness, until he could no longer bear the degradation of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, which wasn’t so blatant in its initial stages, as many of the old followers would bear witness. This Minister Farrakhan has expressed and I have no reason not to believe him, like I have no reason to doubt any of your Islamic bio posted on your site.
Now if you say that the Minister represented the hostility of the Imam toward the Messenger what brought the Imam to treat the Minister “ill” as you stated. This is unsound and does not coincide with the testimony of the many that were present or the Ministers statements himself. So where did you get this rendition. I have spoken to and heard some of the Ministers that were there in that day, and you can search the internet and hear some of there testimony. Capt. Yusuf Shah didn’t represent it in this way, Min. Abdul Allah formerly of California, he was John Shabazz I think his name was, the Rock of Georgia never gave your view, neither Jabril Muhammad, formerly Brenard Cushmere, Abdul Karriem of Philadelphia, Min. Wazir of California, all of these I have heard personally depict what actually took place and the Ministers position and disposition at that time. None of them have given an account as you have on your site. None of these men were his followers, at that time, and were Ministers of the Messenger. I wasn’t there so I can not speak definitely but as the Quran states “who has the weightiest testimony”. Unless you can site your source, I would have to take the latter. Allah is the best knower. The Minister never said that he got into this work to make a living. Anyone who is involved in this work knows that that is a fool’s quest. His words were that he did not want the Messengers work to be forgotten and he wanted that work to be rebuilt. This is a direct misrepresentation, so what is the motive behind such act, when the Minister has stated clearly his disposition, and why wouldn’t you think better of a brother? What is in the heart?
Yes the Minister did pattern his work after the Messenger because this is a different time. If you are speaking and teaching in the same manner of 2000 years ago you are out of time, even 70 years ago in the 30’s which barely had cars, phones and television. That goes for the same with 30 years ago in the 60’s, that didn’t have cell phones or computers, each time has a contemporary message. This is what the Quran speaks of when it speaks of the abrogation of a message. This has been the down fall of all the people before they would not change with the time. Moses people, Jesus people, and Muhammad, to bring it to modern times Master Fard Muhammad’s followers would not change when the Messenger took charge, and the Messengers followers suffer from the same disease.
The thesis as well as the antithesis is not needed when you have the synthesis. The thesis is the wake up Message that the Messenger spoke of, he said himself that there would be something new. Brother do you attribute to yourself that you know the means and methods by which this new or synthesis of all that has come before would come into existence, when both bible and Quran state eye have not seen ear has not heard nor has it entered into the heart? God Himself would work directly threw someone as the Messenger hinted. It is very few times that I have ever heard the Messenger speak non definitively, but when he was asked in the article that you pointed out, will there be a successor he never said no. He said that he didn’t “think” there would be one, he said that he wouldn’t chose him because he didn’t chose himself but Allah would chose him. He did say there would be no successor, but which one is it. The question that we should ask, in the manner in which the Messenger answered this question, is it possible? If you know the Messengers teaching you would have to say yes, because the Messenger said there is no impossibility, but one and that is for Allah to lie. So let’s ask the question: is it possible that you are incorrect in your stance? If you are incorrect, and you are, about Min. Farrakhan then what does that mean for you. What positions have you put yourself in, and what does that mean for those who are with you as well as your descendants. I do not mean to be derogatory in the least, but I am sighting something in order that you may take another critical look at you position. If the Messenger as I stated before is the fulfiller of the scripture of Moses, and he is, who is the Aaron? If he is the Elijah and he is who is the Elisha? If he is the fulfiller of Jesus and he is, who is the Peter or Paul? If he is one of the two prophets in the book of Revelations, who is the second one? If Min. Farrakhan is what you say he is, he will fade away and his words will go for nothing as all the other false prophets. But if you are wrong and have made a critical error in your judgment of this divine man, and of Gods work thru this man, you are not only taking a stance against him, the people he has been prophesied to save, but the God that commissioned him before he was born. Then brother it will be for you as the Messenger said, it would have been better for you to never have been born.
Final misquote the Minister never stated that Master Fard Muhammad prays to creation that is a misread at best or a blatant misquote. The honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan taught us that the Messenger said Master Fard Muhammad prays and I have heard other Ministers of the Messenger say they heard the same. So he posed the question in the Study Guide, then if Master Fard Muhammad is so powerful (comma) why does he pray, (meaning how does He get His power). The answer was “through His prayer He draws from the Power and Creation of the Originator at the point of its origination”. Meaning He has gone to the origin from which all power and creation has come from, not He draws power form creation which is a misrepresentation of what was actually stated.
You asked the question how did Allah get in Master Fard Muhammad (MFM) and stated that Min. Farrakhan is changing the teaching by stating the Master prayed to Allah, you asked when did he become Allah? You stated the Min. Farrakhan is misteaching that MFM prays. You mockingly asked was He walking down the street did Allah just jump into Him? These are all good questions and can be answered very easily. Was MFM “The Allah” (meaning the Supreme One the Wisest and the Mightiest) when he was born? Of Course not. We are taught that He was taught by His Father, who was the Supreme, from the great books of the world that were hidden, with hidden histories of great kings. The Messengers words not the Ministers. He said He studied 40 years, the Messengers words which all the Min. taught which was after Saviour’s Day 73. In the Problem Book, problem No. 32 MFM is referred to as the Messenger who was sent. Was He The Allah when he was being sent? Of course not, how can Allah be sent? The Messenger also referred to Him as Prophet and Savior W.D. Fard, why did he call Him Prophet. Because as we were taught by the Messenger He became Allah, He became more powerful than any God that ever lived, even more powerful than the Originator, these are the words of the Messenger that the Min. taught and is teaching. This knowledge of MFM history was not taught prior the 72 by the Min. because the Messenger did not go into it until 73.
Deceptive intelligence, did the Min. teach this? No he did not use those words, but he as well as the Messenger most certainly taught it. Again in the Buzz Anderson interview that you can get. The Messenger stated that not just the Whiteman but anything grafted from original is devil he said that you can have a devil cat out there, a devil wicked cow, anything grafted from original is devil. But he said when you have Satan this is someone who’s wickedness is not confined to himself, it spreads. The question is how does it spread? It spreads thru his teaching as we are taught in the Supreme Wisdom Q&A No.4, which was a practice of devilishment and trickery of the mind or intellect, which can easily been seen in the way this lesson is expressed.
Fasting with the Orthodox Muslim, now these really are very silly arguments but since this is put on the web for the world to see I must answer. Clearly stated by the Messenger himself, now if this is a misprint and you have something different in your book please tell me, but the Messenger clearly states quote: “If you take it (the fast of Ramadan) with “them”, you are doing the right thing, until this evil world has vanished.” Now if the Messenger states this in his book how is Farrakhan wrong. These are clear errors that are made either through lack of study or the heart is blinding you brother from being a brother to a brother, and looking into what the Minister is saying and doing. The effect that he is having on peoples lives, mine and yours included is a bearing of witness to him, his work, and who he represents.
Love transcends color. Does MFM love His mother, how about His Father? Does his love transcend both of there colors. The Messenger stated that love is freedom, justice, and equality. Does freedom justice and equality transcend color? Emphatically yes. Every class creed and color of every living species has received the boundless love of All Mighty God Allah, regardless of the color. Even the rebellious devil who as the Messenger stated in the clay and the potter parable mention in Saviour’s Day 73 lecture, the devil is doing what we made him to do, and he even loves his maker who is black. So anyone can see who wants to look rationally and non-emotionally that it does.
Separation a last resort, now of course if we want to skim over what the Messenger has taught, this is difficult to accept, but the Messenger said himself that Islam is last, it comes after everything else fails. After the entire spectrum of the knowledge and wisdom of the original and made man has been practiced or experimented on, the favor of Allah is completed and the real Islam comes, not the sign. The Messenger states in “what the Muslims want”, No. 2 we want equal justice under the law…. Whose law? The Whiteman. No. 3 we want equal opportunity…. From whom? …. We want equal membership with the best in civilized society. What does membership mean and who are the best in civilized society that the Messenger is referring to? Obviously the Whiteman, and as the Minister stated if they do not do 1-3 then 4 comes last this is why the Messenger used the word “since” in No. 4. There is one other thing I think you should consider brother why did the Messenger say putting us all together in America, mixing the people had never been done before. He said it was an experiment. Who ordered the experiment and why. Finally why is point No.12’s final word “together”? I believe this will give us a deeper insight to why the Min. made the statement separation is the last resort. I pray Allah will open your heart to consider what I have written, and may He bless you. As-Salaam-Alaikum.
Your Brother
Tony Muhammad
July 22, 2009 at 6:37 am |
As Salaam Alaikum
Are you the Tony Muhammad who is the “Minister in training” of Muhammad’s Mosque # 27?
December 12, 2009 at 6:27 am
Walaikum Salaam,
No I am not Student Min. Tony Muhammad of Mosque #27, I am Bro. Tony Muhammad formerly of Joliet. Salaam Alaikum.
Your Brother
Tony Muhammad
July 31, 2009 at 2:02 pm |
Why does Minister Farrakhan say that “SEPARATION is a last resort???” It is only because he doesnt want SEPARATION in spite of the fact that America is going to fall; in spite of the fact that THEM (PBUH) told us to come out of her so as not to receive of her plagues; and in spite of the fact that MFM said that the Devil was disagreeable to live with in peace. Farrakhan wants to save America, and even wrote a book entitled A Torchlight For America. If America was going to be saved THEM (PBUH) would have told us so, and he never told us so.
No, Min. Farrakhan wants to INTEGRATE with the OPEN ENEMY of the Blackman, Woman and Child; Min. Farrakhan wants to vote and participate in the U.S. political system; Min Farrakhan wants you to LOVE YOUR ENEMY, who is the Devil, by telling you that “love trancends color” and; Min Farrakhan wants to take you back into the belief of a spirit god by fooling you into believeing that the Old Islam is in fact the New Islam, when it isnt. The new beginning is in all actuality the old hat. The Universal Message of Islam Farrakhan is talking about is so-called Orthodox- Islam, which parallels Christianity in 4-ways:
I. Both religions believe in a spook god;
II. Both religions are slave-making religions, and both enslaved our ancestors;
III. both religions do not afford full equality with the former slave-master or his children; and
IV. Arabism is synonomous to WHITE SUPREMACY.
Arabs dont like Black People. What makes you think they will treat you, or anyone like you fairly & justly in their religion??? The Arabs DO NOT FOLLOW THE QUR”AN unless it is to their advantage to do so, leaving people like you at a very distinct DISADVANTAGE. But this is the direction Minister Farrakhan is trying to take you in. How many times have you done rakats at Jumah Prayer in a mosque that was established by THEM (PBUH)??? You should feel ashamed, because you should feel like a HYPOCRITE to the teachings.
You can submit to TRUTH, or you can submit to Min. Farrakhan…
July 31, 2009 at 2:05 pm
ARE YOU GOING TO TRADE ONE SLAVEMASTER FOR ANOTHER????
August 10, 2009 at 10:01 am |
TO: MINISTER TONY MUHAMMAD–
You said above that fasting with the orthodox Muslim was a “silly argument.” It IS NOT SILLY AT ALL, brother. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) said in HOW TO EAT TO LIVE, BOOK II, Chapter 14:
pp. 18: “I prescribe for you the month of December to fast in – if you are able to take the fast – instead of the regular month that travels through the year, called Ramadan by the Muslims; the month in which they say Muhammad received the Holt Qur’an.”
pp. 20: “…. do not fast as the other religious people fast, for they have different objects and ways in which they fast, which are against the meaningful fasts that we take.”
pp. 23: ” I set up this for you and me, to try to drive out of us the old white slavemaster’s worship of a false birthday (December 25th) of Jesus.”
That is what THEM (PBUH) said about FASTING, sir. So, you are VERY INCORRECT to say: “If you take it (the fast of Ramadan) with “them,” you are doing the right thing, until this evil world has vanished.” What you have put on the record is at odds with what THEM (PBUH) has put in his book, sir. WE SHOULD NOT FAST WITH THE SO-CALLED ORTHODOX MUSLIMS.
August 11, 2009 at 10:04 am
If Minister Farrakhaan is telling you that you are “doing the right thing, until this evil world has vanished” by taking Ramadan with the Arabs, that is only Minister Farrakhan’s HIS-lam. It IS NOT WHAT THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD (PBUH) SAID in How To Eat To Live, II.
July 31, 2009 at 11:40 am |
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH WHO CAME IN THE PERSON OF MASTER W. D. FARD MUHAMMAD, TO WHOM ALL PRAISES ARE DUE FOREVER, THE GREAT MAHDI; IN LOVING MEMORY OF THE LAST AND GREATEST MESSENGER OF ALLAH, MOSES, WHO APPEARED IN THE PERSON OF THE HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD OUR SPIRITUAL MOTHER, MARY OF THE BOOK; AND IN THE NAME OF THE MOST HONRABLE SILIS MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET LIKE MOSES, CHRIST, SOLOMON, AND JOSHUA; HE SPIRITUAL SON OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH, HIS IS THE NAME OF TE SON OF MAN. THERE IS NO (GOD) ALLAH BESIDES THE HUMAN BEING MAN.
AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM
TO:MINISTER TONY MUHAMMAD, OF LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA:
You have a reputation for doing fine work in L.A., keeping the peace among rival gang members. You are also well noted for being a “national troubleshooter” so to speak. I do respect your reputation, along with the good work you have done, brother.
Because you are a faithful follower of Minister Farrakhan, it is understandable that you feel that DEFAMATION & SLANDER are at issue here. However, this is not a fight. Yes, we do have The Restricted Law of Islam, etc., etc. I am going to respond to you as no one else has since you posted your response to this lecture.
I. Does our dislike, disapproval, hatred, or our belief in the incorrectness of another, allow us to violate that which has been given to us by the Messenger of Allah?
ANSWER: Technically no. But when it becomes necessary to question the teachings of Minister farrakhan in public because he wont answer letters or “had questions” concerning what he teaches, this is going to happen.
II. (ROC#1: A MUSLIM MUST SHOW THE GREATEST INTELLIGENCE AT ALL TIMES.)
YOU ASK: Is it intelligent to speak in a derogatory manner against another Muslim on the World Wide Web before disbelievers & vicious enemies against the rise of us all? If so, please explain how?
EXPLANATION: It becomes necessary to have these types of discussions about Minister Farrakhan on the WWW, because neither he nor Jibril Muhammad will answer any questions directly. It is as if they feel they are so far above everyone else that they do not have to answer questions. When I first stood up, the minister said: ” Dont accept it as truth because we say it’s truth. QUESTION THE TRUTH. Test the truth to see if it be truth or not.” Since Minister Farrakhan doesnt answer questions, you will find discussions about him everywhere. If he answered questions, there would not be so much public discussion about him. Public discussion is alot more intelligent than violent reaction. Do you recall 1976, when those who followed Warith into The World Community of Al’ Islam in the West argued with those who stuck to the teachings of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad,(Peace Be Upon Him)??? There was alot of violent reaction instead of “intelligent discussion.”
III. ROC#2: NEVER BE THE AGGRESSOR IN WORD OR ACTION, BUT IN THE EVENT YOU ARE ATTACKED STICK TOGETHER AND BATTLE AS A SOLID WALL.)
YOU ASK: “When has Minister Farrakhan attack [sic] you publicly which would justify your actions?
EXPLANATION: Minister Farrakhan has never attacked me publicly. However, my actions are justified as it is the duty of a Muslim to “question the lie until it dies.”
(ROC#6: BE PURE IN MIND & BODY.)
YOU ASK: Are these actions pure?
EXPLANATION: Actions are judged by intentions. If your intentions are good, then your actions are pure.
(ROC#8: WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CREATORS NATION, SO ACT LIKE IT IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, AND SET EXAMPLES TO THE LOST-FOUND.)
YOU ASK: We all , including Min. Farrakhan belong to Allah. Would you stand before Allah & make such judgments of Min. Farrakhan?… (The language used toward Min. Farrakhan is inappropriate, and not the real issue. the real issue is what he teaches.)
EXPLANATION: We are all memebers of the Creators Nation, but the Creators Nation is a DIVIDED NATION, and a house divided against itself cannot stand. This House is divided between The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad and Minister Farrakhan. So what example are we really setting to the Lost-Found. How are we going to talk the Unity of the People
to them and we dont even have Unity of Self as a Nation??? What example is that???
(ROC#9: WE MUST RECOGNIZE THE NECESSITY OF UNITY AND GROUP OPERATION.)
YOU DID NOT ELABORATE ON THIS.
EXPANATION: The Lost-Found Nation has no UNITY or GROUP OPERATION. If it did, it would not be divided in disunity between Mr. Muhammad and Min. Farrakhan. The FOI & MGT of the two divided fragments DO NOT WORK TOGETHER.
(ROC#10: STOP NEEDLESS CRITICISM OF YOUR BROTHER. WE MUST REMEMBER JEALOUSY DESTROYS FROM WITHIN.)
YOU ASK: Where is the need to publicly criticize a world leader….
EXPLANATION: World Leaders head INDEPENDENT and SOVEREIGN nations recognized by the international community of nations. You think that because Farrakhan has been received by some Heads of State that he is their equal, and he isnt. Stop the fantasy, brother. I dont even call The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad a World Leader, and He goes to the U.N. However, the need to citicize Min. Farrakhan lies in the fact that he calls The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) The Exalted Christ, and this is not the TRUTH.
(ROC#12: BE PATIENT IN MATTERS INVOLVING OTHERS BECAUSE IT WAS A TIME WHERE WE THAT KNEW, KNEW NOT.)
YOU DID NOT ELABORATE:
EXPLANATION: Does Minister Farrakhan not know that he is not telling the TRUTH about THEM (PBUH)??? If he doesnt know, I can be patient.
(ROC#13: DONT TAKE THE BAD SIDE OF THINGS, IT IS BETTER TO TAKE THE GOOD SIDE.)
YOU DID NOT ELABORATE.
EXPLANATION: When have you ever seen the “good side” of a lie, non-tuth, or other falsehood???
(ROC#14:ACTIONS MAY APPEAR WRONG BUT THEY ARE JUDGED BY INTENTION.)
YOU ASK: Would you put your life and all that you have on the belife that Min. Farrakhan’s intention is to do something wicked or evil to the Messenger?
EXPLANATION: NO… You cannot do anything “wicked or evil” to a dead man.
(ROC#15: SEEK NOT TO FIND FAULT IN YOUR BROTHER.)
YOU DID NOT ELABORATE.
EXPLANATION: If the fault in your brother is such that you cannot ignore it, you can only find that fault. That is why The Nation is in a state of DISUNITY.
(ROC#17: IF YOU SHOULD SEE YOUR BROTHER IN ERROR CORRECT HIM IN THE STRICTEST OF PRIVACY.)
YOU DID NOT ELABORATE.
EXPLANATION: If Minister Farrakhan would not accept correction from The Most Honorable silis Muhammad about his teaching, he will not accept it from me, Eric Muhammad, or anyone else.
(ROC#21: A TRUE MUSLIM SHOULD ACT JUSTLY, NOT ONLY TO OTHER MUSLIMS BUT ALSO TO NON-MUSLIMS AND EVEN THOSE WHO ARE ENEMIES TO ISLAM.)
YOU DID NOT ELABORATE ON THIS.
EXPLANATION: You sound really hypocritical on this Bro. Tony… So, this is why two of Min. Farrakhan’s followers went to the private residence of The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad after Mr. Muhammad published a 1993 article in Muhammad speaks identifying Min. Farrakhan as The 2nd Beast in the book of Revelation. They went armed with (hand) guns and Muslims arent supposed to carry firearms, they invaded Mr. Muhammad’s home and the late Jeremiah Shabazz, who was visiting at the time, asked them what they thought they were doing. The invaders stood down, but they told Mr. Muhammad before they left that if He continued to call Min. Farrakhan The Beast, they would return and kill Him.
I’d like you to explain this one in light of the Rules…
THEM (PBUH) fulfills 75% of the Bible & Qur’an. The remainder is to be fulfilled by that MUHAMMAD born of Joseph & Mary spoken of by THEM (PBUH) in How To Eat To Live, Book II, pgs 46-48.
The relationship Eric Muhammad speaks of is that of National Rep & Messenger. There’s an explicit relationship there… one people would take for granted.
Min. Farrakhan represented the hostility of the Imam when he stated in the very first Bilalian News that came out: “The Nation of Islam has made a smooth transition.” Transition to what??? Disbelief in MFM, whom Warith called a “trickster…” Disbelief in THEM (PBUH), whom warith called a “deceiver…” Disbelief in the Holt Tribe Shabazz???
THEM (PBUH) did say there would be something NEW. He did not tell you that it was going to be the “universal message of Islam,” which means so-called orthodox Islam. THEM (PBUH) called so-called orthodox Islam THE OLD ISLAM and called his teachings THE NEW ISLAM.
There is no successor to the divine office of Messenger, but EVERY NATION MUST HAVE A LEADER.
Aaron was Malcolm X before Malcolm wa killed, then Farrakhan was put into the formula to complete the record; Elisha is that one to come after Elijah like Joshua (The Prophet Like Moses) followed Moses (SEE, Num. 27:18-23.)
THEM (PBUH) IS NOT THE FULFILLER OF JESUS, because he is not THE EXALTED CHRIST. Why isnt he??? FIRST: MFM disappeared without trace in 1934. THEM (PBUH) doesnt know where He went and Farrakhan certainly doesnt know; SECOND: THEM (PBUH) identified himself as Mary of the Book; THIRD: THEM (PBUH) told us in How To Eat To Live, II that: “Nobody knew the birth of MUHAMMAD but the parents Joseph & Mary.” THEM (PBUH) could not give birth to himself spiritually, or otherwise; FOURTH: THEM (PBUH) told us that there were SCIENTISTS on the Mother Plane who know your thoughts before you think them, and; FIFTH: If THEM (PBUH) were The Exalted Christ, that means he would also have to be the 24th Scientist executing the judgment of this world. THEM (PBUH) never told us that his mission was to execute the judgment.
If Minister Farrakhan says that THEM (PBUH) is on the Mother Plane with Master W.D.Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever, then Minister Farrakhan is a BLATANT LIAR, because nothing is on that Plane but SCIENTISTS who will destroy this world.
AS-SALAAM-ALAIKUM
Your Brother In Truth,
Ameer Labeeb Hassan
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August 23, 2009 at 10:39 pm |
In the name of Allah who came to us in the person of Master Farad Muhammad! As Salaam Alaikum!
I have been a believer since 1975 when the transition took place.I was 15years old in the nation but went astray under the direction that was taken place under Wallace. The Most Hon.Elijah Muhammad taught us to love our brothers and never speak ill against each other. If we have any difference with believers we should never publicly put it out front for entertainment of non-believers. Allah is the best knower. If any one was chastised by the Minister than we should submit to that chastisement until Allah gives us understanding and his mercy.Min Malcolm went thru that trail and failed on his duty to the messenger as well as the NOI. We are not at war with each other when other attempts are present to challenge our faith. I love Minister Farrakhan and supports his mission to clear and make known the wisdom of TMHEM. We are in a different time now. If my parents or elder statesmen disciplines me I am not to drag and slander them because of misunderstanding or hurt feeling. We are muslims and “we want for our brother what we want for our self”. Stop the back biting and slander and come together as it was in the time of the messenger.Show the world again that the nation is not divided but we are 1 Ummah. May Peace be unto you All!
August 26, 2009 at 2:30 pm |
In The Name Of Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, (to whom all praises are due forever); In Loving Memory of His Last & Greatest Messenger, The Hon. Elijah Muhammad Our Spiritual Mother, Mary of the Book; and In The Name of The Most Hon. Silis Muhammad, The Prophet Like Moses, Christ, Solomon and Joshua, The Spiritual Son of God In Person, I Greet You…
As-Salaam-Alaikum
Brother Sharrieff:
Let me humbly pose a question to you in light of the fact that I have written both Min.Farrakhan & Jibril Muhammad letters in time past questioning what is being taught, and have received no direct answers. But first, since you stood up in ‘75, then you will recall what the minister said who stood you up… “Dont take it as TRUTH because we say it is TRUTH. QUESTION THE TRUTH. Test the TRUTH to see if it be TRUTH or not. Bear this in mind please, as I now put my question forth to you, sir.
If a man knows that HE IS STANDING ON TRUTH, and that he is telling the TRUTH, what reason does he have not to answer your direct question(s) about that TRUTH, if it indeed be the TRUTH ???
August 26, 2009 at 2:09 pm |
In The Name Of Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, (to whom all praises are due forever.)
Mr. Muhammad’s followers are often criticized for HATING on Min. Farrakhan, or backbiting as you put it. But THE TRUTH of the matter is that Minister Farrakhan & Jibril Muhammad WILL NOT ANSWER ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT MIN. FARRAKHAN IS TEACHING. So, unfortunately, it becomes ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to have this kind of public discussion. IT IS THE DUTY OF A MUSLIM TO QUESTION THE LIE UNTIL IT DIES. It is a BLATANT LIE that THEM (PBUH) is on the Mother Plane. THE TEACHINGS PROVE THIS OUT, if you follow them and TRULY BELIEVE IN THOSE TEACHINGS. I’m sure that you love Min. Farrakhan. Would you love him if you were certain in your mind that HE WAS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ??? I think not, so it is easier for you to tell me that I am wrong for putting a light on what that lie is. You do not want to feel or believe that you are being deceived by a man you look up to; a man you admire; and a man you would likely give your life for. It is therefore easier for you to say “You are slandering” the minister. If there is a coming together in the UNITY you allude to, then that must be accomplished by and between Mr. Muhammad and Min. Farrakhan, or alternatively, by those believers who recognize this lie for what it is and separate themselves from it to follow a man who is TELLING THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Those are the ONLY PRACTICAL WAYS THAT WE AS MUSLIMS CAN SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE ARE NOT DIVIDED, because the unpleasant TRUTH OF THE MATTER is that WE ARE DIVIDED. Now then, brother, if you think I have lied, restudy the teachings for yourself.
August 26, 2009 at 2:13 pm |
Please forgive me for not wishing you PEACE above. My apologies…
As-Salaam-Alaikum.
August 26, 2009 at 5:55 pm |
Ramadan Mubarak!
Dear Beloved Brother
This is the time to study and reflex on our teachings and faith not argue among us.
I have issues with the relax dress code that Silas Muhammad have giving his woman followers as well as letting
Whites in our ranks. Remember the past and how Malcolm defected and talked about his teacher that caused kayos and division among the believers. We may not always understand why our leaders do the strategic things he does “Allah is the best know er” . All we can do is have faith and trust in our wisdom that we will have understanding in time.Many are out to discredit Islam in every aspect of our faith. Instead of pointing at each other we should save our strength to do battle with the likes of Pastors Geno Jennings,Tony Smith and others that have challenge the Nation.
Brother Khalid (Peace be upon him) went the same way as Malcolm in not understanding his discipline.
Time heals all pain. The truth manifest it’s self. Talk in private among our selves not attack each other in the public.
AsSalaam Alaikum!
Bro. Sharif
August 26, 2009 at 6:35 pm |
Correction on words sent: reflect, Silis, women,
September 9, 2009 at 2:57 pm |
In The Name Of Master W.D. Fard Muhammad
As-Salaam-Alaikum
I take it that you are now doing Ramadan with the Arabs. If you read what I quoted from The Messenger above, our Ramadan is December, which is when I will take it, insha-illah. Minister Farrakhan says he is The National Representative of the Messenger, right now at this time. If that is so, then Minister Farrakhan HAS NO AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE TEACHINGS IN ANY MANNER. He is, by his own account, A REPRESENTATIVE. Nothing more.
Now, in my humble opinion brother, anyone who knows the teachings of the Messenger has to QUESTION what Minister Farrakhan is saying about THEM (PBUH) being on the Mother Plane with God in Person. This goes to the PERSONAL INTEGRITY OF EVERY MUSLIM.
Brother, I do agree with you about the dress code for women under Mr. Muhammad, and I have heard that complaint from many believers over the years. I do not believe you are wrong to feel that way, but what is worse… a relaxed dress code for the women, or a blatant lie about the Messenger being on the Mother Plane with God in Person ???
Have you ever QUESTIONED MR. MUHAMMAD as to why He did this ??? I have QUESTIONED Minister Farrakhan numerous times and cannot get any direct answer.
We both know Islam as taught by The Messenger has its critics, but THE TRUTH IS SUPPOSED TO COUNT FOR SOMETHING, if we are indeed a truthful people. If Minister Farrakhan were saying that he was The Exalted Christ, that might be easier for me to accept him changing the teachings. But by his own account, he is not that.
Peace, My Brother
September 9, 2009 at 3:03 pm |
Since it is time for you to study & reflect, I pray that you will re-read what The Messenger said about Ramadan; what he said about who is on the Mother Plane; and what he said about God in Person. Because if THEM (PBUH) did not know where God in Person went, Minister Farrakhan surely doesnt know.