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	<title>Comments on: FARRAKHAN VS ELIJAH/THE REAL NATION OF ISLAM/Atlanta, GA.</title>
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		<title>By: kevin2x</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEACE BELOVED....ALLAH BE THE JUDGE... WHERE I WAS ONCE LOST I THANK ALLAH 4 MIN.FARRAKAN...WILLY LENCH DID A JOB HUH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEACE BELOVED&#8230;.ALLAH BE THE JUDGE&#8230; WHERE I WAS ONCE LOST I THANK ALLAH 4 MIN.FARRAKAN&#8230;WILLY LENCH DID A JOB HUH</p>
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		<title>By: Mordecai_7</title>
		<link>http://noitemple15.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/386/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordecai_7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) also said that he knew he was surrounded bt HYPOCRITES, even in his own family, and that some of his best followers weren&#039;t even in the Mosque... so who was that message you refer to actually being conveyed to ???

Allah is the judge, but HIS judgement has nothing to do with what should be your COMMON SENSE, brother.

Whatever work Minister Farrakhan is doing, it is going to lead you back into the belief in a SPIRIT Allah and the teachings of Warith (Wallace) D. Muhammad.  The &quot;Universal Message of Islam&quot; that Minister Farrakhan speaks of is a veiled reference to so-called Orthodox Islam.  THEM (PBUH) called so-called orthodox Islam &quot;The Old Islam&quot; and called his teachings &quot;The New Islam.&quot;  If you think Minister Farrakhan is leading you into something NEW, you are sadly mistaken.

The prophets of old were called HATERS, too, because they spoke THE TRUTH.  If anyone should be ashamed it should be the ignorant of you who call yourselves Muslim and are still Deaf, Dumb, and Blind to DECEIT.  

English Lesson C-1: Can the devil fool a Muslim?

No, not nowadays.

What is the real problem with those who say they believe and are led astray ???  But you call me a Hater...

Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) also said that he knew he was surrounded bt HYPOCRITES, even in his own family, and that some of his best followers weren&#8217;t even in the Mosque&#8230; so who was that message you refer to actually being conveyed to ???</p>
<p>Allah is the judge, but HIS judgement has nothing to do with what should be your COMMON SENSE, brother.</p>
<p>Whatever work Minister Farrakhan is doing, it is going to lead you back into the belief in a SPIRIT Allah and the teachings of Warith (Wallace) D. Muhammad.  The &#8220;Universal Message of Islam&#8221; that Minister Farrakhan speaks of is a veiled reference to so-called Orthodox Islam.  THEM (PBUH) called so-called orthodox Islam &#8220;The Old Islam&#8221; and called his teachings &#8220;The New Islam.&#8221;  If you think Minister Farrakhan is leading you into something NEW, you are sadly mistaken.</p>
<p>The prophets of old were called HATERS, too, because they spoke THE TRUTH.  If anyone should be ashamed it should be the ignorant of you who call yourselves Muslim and are still Deaf, Dumb, and Blind to DECEIT.  </p>
<p>English Lesson C-1: Can the devil fool a Muslim?</p>
<p>No, not nowadays.</p>
<p>What is the real problem with those who say they believe and are led astray ???  But you call me a Hater&#8230;</p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin 2x</title>
		<link>http://noitemple15.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/386/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin 2x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DID THE HEM SAY TO LOOK AT (FARRAKAN) go where he say go and dont go where he say dont go.I SEE BRO.FARRAKAN ADVANCING THE TEACHINGS OF THE HEM..LET ALLAH BE THE JUDGE..THE MINISTER IS  HELP BRINGING THE BLACKMAN TOGETHER UNIVERISALLY...WHAT WORK HAVE ANYONE ONE OF YOU HATERS DONE TO EVEN EQUAL HIS WORK IN THE RESSURECTION OF UOR PEOPLE... YOU NEGROS SHOULD BE ASHAME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DID THE HEM SAY TO LOOK AT (FARRAKAN) go where he say go and dont go where he say dont go.I SEE BRO.FARRAKAN ADVANCING THE TEACHINGS OF THE HEM..LET ALLAH BE THE JUDGE..THE MINISTER IS  HELP BRINGING THE BLACKMAN TOGETHER UNIVERISALLY&#8230;WHAT WORK HAVE ANYONE ONE OF YOU HATERS DONE TO EVEN EQUAL HIS WORK IN THE RESSURECTION OF UOR PEOPLE&#8230; YOU NEGROS SHOULD BE ASHAME</p>
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		<title>By: Mordecai_7</title>
		<link>http://noitemple15.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/386/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordecai_7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me begin by stating that I stood up in The Nation back in 1974.  The thing that stood me up was the fact that the minister said &quot;dont take it as truth because we say its truth.  Question the truth.  Test the truth to see if it be truth or not.&quot;  That brings me to the present...

Since The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad resurrected The Nation on 21 August, 1977 there has been clear division between Him and Minister Farrakhan.  Mr. Muhammad tried to unify with Minister Farrakhan but later declined due to fundamental differences He  had with Minister Farrakhan in terms of what he (Farrakhan) was teaching.  Now, many of you believe that Minister Farrakhan is the true and rightful person at the head of The Nation, and  because of this you accept his teachings concerning The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him).

In the 1st Resurrection there was teaching that equated The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger Of Allah with Jesus.  Followers called THEM (PBUH) The Lamb of God.   The primary comparison was that The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger of Allah was a teacher of MORAL REFORM.  Jesus was also such a teacher.  It was also taught back then that The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger of Allah would one day &quot;go away&#039; and return as a pure child of age 16.    THEM (PBUH) told us that his mission was to &quot;give life to the spiritually dead.&quot;  Minister Bernard Cushmeer (Jibril Muhammad) who was minister of the Phoenix mosque wrote a book entitled The Jesus Book that set forth these assertions.  Today, it is said that HE LIVES, that he has DEPARTED, that he is THE EXALTED CHRIST.  I have a problem with this teaching and I will explain why...

First:  In all of the books and writings of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (PBUH), he never identified himself as Jesus.  The most compelling description he gave of himself was that of the woman in Revelation 12, who wore a crown of 12-stars.  The fez of 12-stars worn bt The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger of Allah in his lifetime was symbolic of this crown.  (Compare, Jeremiah 30:6.)

Second:  In Theology of Time, when THEM (PBUH) talked about the future and our deliverence, he said &quot;I cant do it.&quot;  He was speaking in reference to leading us out of spiritual Egypt.

Third:  In How to Eat To Live II, between  pgs. 46-48, THEM (PBUH) said &quot;Jesus of 2000 years ago was a sign for the last days.&quot;  He went on to say that: &quot; Nobody knew the birth of MUHAMMAD but the parents Joseph &amp; Mary.&quot;  Ask yourselves the following questions:

1.  Being Mary, how could THEM (PBUH) give birth to himself, spiritually or otherwise?

2.  Being Moses, how could THEM (PBUH) be The Prophet Like Moses(Joshua)?   (SEE,  Deu. 18:15, 18:18, Acts 3:22-23, Num 27:18-23, Zechariah 3:6-7, St John 5:22.)  

THEM (PBUH) never identified himself as Joshua, and never told us that his mission was to execute The Judgment.  That mission was for the 24th Scientist. So, in order for THEM (PBHU) to be The Exalted Christ, he would also have to be the 24th Scientist.

3.  Why did Minister Farrakhan start calling himself Louis Farrakhan-Muhammad for a time and then discontinue?

THEM (PBUH) spoke of the birth of MUHAMMAD, not Jesus.

Each of you are free to  believe what you will, but remember... Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever, disappeared without trace.  THEM (PBUH) never said God In Person was on The Mother Plane.  He said:&quot; SCIENTISTS are on the plane who know your thoughts before you  think them.&quot;

The above reasons are why I do not follow Minister Farrakhan.  I have written him (Farrakhan) personallyin the past asking for explanation and have never received an answer.  I have commented on Eric Muhammad&#039;s article and Tony Muhammad, a minister in L.A. who does fine work keeping the peace among gang members, got on and shut the commentary down.  So as to have the last word.  It has become necessary to have discussion about Minister Farrakhan on the Net because he, nor his ministers, will  answer questions  concerning what he is teaching

It really appears to me that since he (Farrakhan) has made THEM (PBUH) out to be The Exalted Christ, and  continues to say that he is National Representative, that he is like an Islamic Pope.  One standing in place of Christ until Christ returns.  That is the lie of the spirit god Popes have told of themselves for 1,973 years.  They are waiting on Christ, and so is Minister Farrakhan.  Figuer the rest out for yourselves, because I dont want to sound like I&#039;m &quot;hating&quot; when I am really just questioning what they say to be the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me begin by stating that I stood up in The Nation back in 1974.  The thing that stood me up was the fact that the minister said &#8220;dont take it as truth because we say its truth.  Question the truth.  Test the truth to see if it be truth or not.&#8221;  That brings me to the present&#8230;</p>
<p>Since The Most Honorable Silis Muhammad resurrected The Nation on 21 August, 1977 there has been clear division between Him and Minister Farrakhan.  Mr. Muhammad tried to unify with Minister Farrakhan but later declined due to fundamental differences He  had with Minister Farrakhan in terms of what he (Farrakhan) was teaching.  Now, many of you believe that Minister Farrakhan is the true and rightful person at the head of The Nation, and  because of this you accept his teachings concerning The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him).</p>
<p>In the 1st Resurrection there was teaching that equated The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger Of Allah with Jesus.  Followers called THEM (PBUH) The Lamb of God.   The primary comparison was that The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger of Allah was a teacher of MORAL REFORM.  Jesus was also such a teacher.  It was also taught back then that The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger of Allah would one day &#8220;go away&#8217; and return as a pure child of age 16.    THEM (PBUH) told us that his mission was to &#8220;give life to the spiritually dead.&#8221;  Minister Bernard Cushmeer (Jibril Muhammad) who was minister of the Phoenix mosque wrote a book entitled The Jesus Book that set forth these assertions.  Today, it is said that HE LIVES, that he has DEPARTED, that he is THE EXALTED CHRIST.  I have a problem with this teaching and I will explain why&#8230;</p>
<p>First:  In all of the books and writings of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad (PBUH), he never identified himself as Jesus.  The most compelling description he gave of himself was that of the woman in Revelation 12, who wore a crown of 12-stars.  The fez of 12-stars worn bt The Last &amp; Greatest Messenger of Allah in his lifetime was symbolic of this crown.  (Compare, Jeremiah 30:6.)</p>
<p>Second:  In Theology of Time, when THEM (PBUH) talked about the future and our deliverence, he said &#8220;I cant do it.&#8221;  He was speaking in reference to leading us out of spiritual Egypt.</p>
<p>Third:  In How to Eat To Live II, between  pgs. 46-48, THEM (PBUH) said &#8220;Jesus of 2000 years ago was a sign for the last days.&#8221;  He went on to say that: &#8221; Nobody knew the birth of MUHAMMAD but the parents Joseph &amp; Mary.&#8221;  Ask yourselves the following questions:</p>
<p>1.  Being Mary, how could THEM (PBUH) give birth to himself, spiritually or otherwise?</p>
<p>2.  Being Moses, how could THEM (PBUH) be The Prophet Like Moses(Joshua)?   (SEE,  Deu. 18:15, 18:18, Acts 3:22-23, Num 27:18-23, Zechariah 3:6-7, St John 5:22.)  </p>
<p>THEM (PBUH) never identified himself as Joshua, and never told us that his mission was to execute The Judgment.  That mission was for the 24th Scientist. So, in order for THEM (PBHU) to be The Exalted Christ, he would also have to be the 24th Scientist.</p>
<p>3.  Why did Minister Farrakhan start calling himself Louis Farrakhan-Muhammad for a time and then discontinue?</p>
<p>THEM (PBUH) spoke of the birth of MUHAMMAD, not Jesus.</p>
<p>Each of you are free to  believe what you will, but remember&#8230; Master W.D. Fard Muhammad, to whom all praises are due forever, disappeared without trace.  THEM (PBUH) never said God In Person was on The Mother Plane.  He said:&#8221; SCIENTISTS are on the plane who know your thoughts before you  think them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The above reasons are why I do not follow Minister Farrakhan.  I have written him (Farrakhan) personallyin the past asking for explanation and have never received an answer.  I have commented on Eric Muhammad&#8217;s article and Tony Muhammad, a minister in L.A. who does fine work keeping the peace among gang members, got on and shut the commentary down.  So as to have the last word.  It has become necessary to have discussion about Minister Farrakhan on the Net because he, nor his ministers, will  answer questions  concerning what he is teaching</p>
<p>It really appears to me that since he (Farrakhan) has made THEM (PBUH) out to be The Exalted Christ, and  continues to say that he is National Representative, that he is like an Islamic Pope.  One standing in place of Christ until Christ returns.  That is the lie of the spirit god Popes have told of themselves for 1,973 years.  They are waiting on Christ, and so is Minister Farrakhan.  Figuer the rest out for yourselves, because I dont want to sound like I&#8217;m &#8220;hating&#8221; when I am really just questioning what they say to be the truth.</p>
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